# Success from marriage counselling? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 30, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/success-from-marriage-counselling/951665 "2021-09-30T14:37:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Orville\_mogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/aeb1de/32.png) [@Orville\_mogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orville_mogul)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/success-from-marriage-counselling/951665/41 "2021-10-26T10:00:31Z")
great analogy. As it happens, I just bought a new car. She is fast and very nice to look at. I wonder what to make of this? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Orville\_mogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/aeb1de/32.png) [@Orville\_mogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orville_mogul)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/success-from-marriage-counselling/951665/42 "2021-10-26T10:02:05Z")
> [@gkster](#): > > I also assumed, from the OP’s male-sounding username and reference to their wife, that they’re in a male-female marriage, but of course that may not be the case. I am in fact a guy. And this is the first time I have been referred to as ‘they’. I feel very woke now! ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/success-from-marriage-counselling/951665/43 "2021-10-26T12:57:42Z")
> [@Orville\_mogul](#): > > great analogy. > > As it happens, I just bought a new car. She is fast and very nice to look at. I wonder what to make of this? 😉 I’d recommend leasing. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/success-from-marriage-counselling/951665/44 "2021-10-26T13:30:36Z")
> [@Orville\_mogul](#): > > I am in fact a guy. And this is the first time I have been referred to as ‘they’. I feel very woke now! Wit until someone refers to you as “zi”. 😉 I found that…surprising when it happened. ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/success-from-marriage-counselling/951665/45 "2021-10-26T14:01:25Z")
> [@Orville\_mogul](#): > > > [@gkster](#): > > > > I came here to post about Marriage Encounter, > > thanks. I will check this out. It seems very interesting. My brother and his wife attended it years ago. He became increasingly blunt, confrontational, and generally unpleasant. Not sure if we can ascribe the change to Marriage Encounter or if it just landed around the same time by coincidence. He had converted to Catholicism—not blaming Catholics, but he started acting better than everybody else as well, maybe showing his new tribe he was different from his old life or something. There are different groups with similar names. Hopefully not paywalled… > The nation’s largest encounter group, Worldwide Marriage Encounter, grew from the Port Washington unit formed in 1968. is strongly associated with Catholicism. A second group, National Marriage Encounter, was organized in 1970 after its leaders broke away from Worldwide Marriage Encounter. National Marriage Encounter, also Catholic‐oriented, is a less tightly organized unit. There are number of Jewish and Protestant groups as well. [https://www.nytimes.com/1979/03/18/archives/long-island-weekly-marriage-groups-encountering-criticism-marriage.html](https://www.nytimes.com/1979/03/18/archives/long-island-weekly-marriage-groups-encountering-criticism-marriage.html) Counterpoint/food for thought: > **[My escape from marriage retreat hell](https://www.salon.com/2010/05/13/escape_from_marriage_retreat_hell/)** > > My husband and I went to a religious getaway to divorce-proof our union. We had no idea what a trial it would be ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/success-from-marriage-counselling/951665/46 "2021-10-27T02:37:19Z")
Unless the person being counseled is prepared to admit they are the problem and they are the ones that have to change, it’s a total waste of time, imho. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/success-from-marriage-counselling/951665.md?page=2)