# Succession on HBO **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, hbomax-wb-dc\ **Created:** [June 4, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428 "2018-06-04T19:34:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/101 "2021-12-06T23:45:36Z")
I agree, but in case anyone is wondering, here is the relevant bit from a [Vulture article](https://www.vulture.com/article/succession-season-three.html). > Armstrong decided early on that the season’s finished scripts wouldn’t be rewritten to incorporate the ongoing pandemic. “These are really wealthy people,” says Snook. “And unfortunately, none of the world’s really wealthy people were going to be affected by the pandemic.” ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/102 "2021-12-07T04:55:11Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > > > Gerri is fucked. Roman is the only reason Gerri is sitting at the big desk, and Shiv has wasted no time in pointing out to Logan how fucked up Roman’s relationship is with her. > > I think Shiv was suggesting that Gerri would have to go and it seemed so unfair; she was the target of the sexting, and she’s the one to be forced out? On the other hand Roman is family and she’s not. I hope she at least gets a fat settlement out of them. Logan suggested Gerri needed to go. Shiv suggested to Gerri that she should bring harassment charges against Roman otherwise she would appear ineffectual and likely forced out as CEO if (when) it came out she was being sexually harassed. And Mattson’s goal of “massive failure” should raise some red flags. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/103 "2021-12-07T13:25:06Z")
Thank you for the correction. Still, we saw that Gerri and Roman had this weird flirting thing going earlier where he masturbated while on the phone with her. If she sues, she’s going to be questioned about all of that while being deposed. They may even ask about her sexual history. In short, she’s going to be embarrassed and humiliated. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/104 "2021-12-07T13:38:08Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Incidentally, in case you’re wondering about the absence of masks in the show, I saw something from the showrunner prior to the season premiere that it’s occurring during the pandemic but people like this aren’t touched by such things. (I can try to find the exact quote later.) I think they are just ignoring it. Yeah the Roys are wealthy but everyone else isn’t. If it was Covid times, the City of NY wouldn’t have allowed Kendall’s birthday party, for example. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/105 "2021-12-07T16:06:43Z")
There is a magazine article, released earlier this year, which accidentally reveals, via a descriptive passage, what happens to Kendall. I am going to enact my own version of the 2-click rule and say if you want a link to this article, PM me. I think the answer is pretty well tipped-off in the preview for the next episode, to be fair. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/106 "2021-12-07T19:31:01Z")
Top throwaway insult this week…“Scary Poppins” Also I was highly disappointed that “Peter Munion” wasn’t played by Roger Allam. Opportunity missed there I think. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/107 "2021-12-07T19:33:45Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Also I was highly disappointed that “Peter Munion” wasn’t played by Roger Allam. Opportunity missed there I think. That would have been superb. Mind how you go. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/108 "2021-12-07T19:36:28Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > That would have been superb. > > Mind how you go. No-one delivers withering put-downs better than Roger, a little understated verbal sparring between him and Logan Roy would have been a thing of beauty I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/109 "2021-12-09T12:06:36Z")
Was I the only one who thought that Kendall drowned in the last seconds of this episode? ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/110 "2021-12-09T12:12:45Z")
They certainly left it for you to think that, but I think there’d be a lot more instinctual coughing and choking before you could drown just by dipping your head in a swimming pool. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/111 "2021-12-09T12:41:18Z")
If you are that boozed out, like those who slip under the water in the bathtub, would they? Or how long until they did that? I certainly thought that was the big thing of the episode. Avclub also thinks it’s there, but I suppose that’s a cliffhanger if you will… ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/112 "2021-12-13T04:35:09Z")
Holy shit what an ending! Tom Wambsgans sends his regards. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/113 "2021-12-13T04:42:15Z")
Yea, that was pretty great. Now the long wait for the next season begins again. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/114 "2021-12-13T06:41:17Z")
Man, I love this show more with every passing episode. Deal with the Devil, indeed! This just moved my man Cousin Greg one step closer to his ultimate take-over of Waystar Royco! Favorite line of the episode: “We just walked in mom and dad fucking (us).” ---
**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/115 "2021-12-13T10:43:54Z")
I am not a fan of this season’s overall arc but that was definitely an interesting ending which keeps me curious about what will happen next. BTW the whole premise of the last few episodes about the soaring valuation of new media companies relative to traditional media isn’t really true. In fact just recently Buzzfeed’s stock price has crashed and it’s market cap is less than a billion dollars. By contrast Fox Corp has a market cap of 20 billion. There was a lot of excitement about new media some years back but it’s been a struggle for ad dollars against the twin juggernauts of Google and Facebook. While companies like Fox haven’t been doing that great either, at least they have a steady business with solid profits. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/116 "2021-12-13T12:42:04Z")
I’m gonna have to rewatch the scene with Tom riffing on Greg about potentially becoming the monarch of Luxembourg because that was some seriously clever and funny stuff. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/117 "2021-12-13T13:16:41Z")
> [@Lantern2](#): > > There was a lot of excitement about new media some years back but it’s been a struggle for ad dollars against the twin juggernauts of Google and Facebook. Connor was really upset about the ‘merger of equals’ because GoJo is trying to deplatform people like him, which makes me think GoJo is basically a Twitter sized company at least. But likely even bigger, due to it’s streaming service. I think it’s supposed to be pretty massive horizontally integrated company. The acquisition almost seems to harken back to Amazon buying the Washington Post. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/118 "2021-12-13T13:28:17Z")
I was thinking of how Rupert Murdoch sold off the Fox movie and television studios to Disney, to avoid the question of succession. Instead, there’s a pile of money to divide. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/119 "2021-12-13T14:00:12Z")
The shocked looks on the faces of the kids as they were confronted with the impending loss of unearned privilege was _delicious._ All their lives they had roamed the halls of the castle, untouchable lords and ladies because of birthright, demanding deference from the unlucky others who actually performed the work. If the sale goes through, they’ll be reduced to having to purchase that deference with cold hard cash, much like Connor has been doing for some time. Of course, the deal could still fall through and the infighting will resume next season and my schadenfraude unrequited. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428/120 "2021-12-13T14:52:14Z")
I see they studied their Coppola: Very reminiscent of the end of GF1, with Shiv as Kaye. Poor Roman: Lost Gerri and his Dad’s love in about 2 minutes. Shiv gets shived by the man she’s been shivving. One thing about next season is Tom is setting up Greg to be the Gregwhiler, his personal attack dog. Since Greg sold his soul to the devil, by episode three of season four I fully expect Greg to be in charge of Tom’s secret 'Operation Cerberus". Shiv in that dress, tho… 👍 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/succession-on-hbo/815428.md?page=7)