# "Suck for Luck" - The 0-16 NFL Season Thread (2011 Ed.) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 8, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661 "2011-09-08T21:06:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/41 "2011-10-03T16:04:46Z")
> [@Snickers](#): > > It doesn’t look like we need him - McNabb’s doing a bang-up job all by his onesies. I’m just hoping McNabb hangs onto the starting job through the Bears game in week 6. I’ll be in Vegas at the time and I want to wager heavily against him. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/42 "2011-10-04T17:50:37Z")
Well, well. What appeared to be the clear favorite to win this thing, the Kansas City Chiefs, beat another winless team, the Vikings. Remaining in the hunt: **Minnesota Vikings -19** Completely true: Adrian Peterson can carry a team all by himself. Completely false: The Vikings totally don’t need Favre, or a QB in general. **Miami Dolphins -35** Completely true: Tony Sporano will last the year without being fired. Completely false: Miami doesn’t need any RBs or DBs. **Indianapolis Colts -45** Completely true: Curtis Painter is the QB of the future. Completely false: Manning wasn’t masking numerous faults in the Colts. **St. Louis Rams -67** Completely true: Sam Bradford has all the skill players he needs. Completely false: Fans in St. Louis care more about the Cardinals than the Rams. (I’ll hold off on listing one-win teams until the zero-win teams dwindle more.) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/43 "2011-10-05T01:37:15Z")
Dammit…dammit…dammit!! I did it to the Colts again! I thought surely it was ok to go to bed with the Colts having the lead. They certainly wouldn’t blow it again, would they? :mad: I can’t find it right now, but someone sent me an article saying that Jeff George is apparently willing to come out of retirement to help the Colts. :eek: don’t call me Shirley ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/44 "2011-10-05T14:52:48Z")
Got to hand it to the Vikings tho. 3rd in Rushing yards per game, 5th against the rush…and still losing 4 games by a grand total of 19 points… Maddening. There isn’t any great shame in losing to San Diego, Detroit, and Tampa Bay (combined, those teams are 10-2). But Kansas City, sheesh. And the schedule ahead is BRUTAL: Arizona might be the last place they could get a win. After that? Chicago, Green Bay, Carolina, Green Bay, Oakland, Atlanta, Denver, Detroit, New Orleans, Washington, Chicago. The only game I see them favored against? Possibly Carolina. All-day might run for 200 yards, but Cam might through for 500. The team is too good for 0-16, but 2-14 or 3-13 is not out of the question at all. Just our ‘Luck’ - just good enough to ensure we don’t get the top pick in the draft. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/45 "2011-10-06T12:01:30Z")
Well it sounds like Henne might be done for the year. Not that he was as important as Manning to his team, but Miami has moved into serious candidate territory. ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/46 "2011-10-06T14:26:32Z")
It’s clearly a three team race between Indianapolis, Miami, and Minnesota. The NFC West is much to weak to expect St. Louis to not win at least 1, if not 2, 3, or even 4 in the division alone. For what it’s worth, none of the four teams in contention face each other this season. Perhaps we’ll see four 0-16 teams! ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/47 "2011-10-10T12:50:33Z")
Whoo hoo! We out. Not a great game (but a really good first quarter!), but it’s a win. I’ll take it. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/48 "2011-10-10T15:04:50Z")
St. Louis and Miami had byes this week, so only two of our remaining contenders had to continue their streaks of ineptitude. Alas! Minnesota won! They beat a really bad Arizona team, who themselves may be gunning for the top spot with only one win. Erstwhile contender Kansas City eked out a win over Indy, keeping the Manningless Colts in the hunt. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/49 "2011-10-10T15:37:39Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Arizona {why do they get a state?} > Chicago > > - Carolina {why do they get TWO states?} > Atlanta The Patriots get _six_ states. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/50 "2011-10-10T19:49:26Z")
I had the pleasure of watching the 4th quarter of the Colts game yesterday. Sigh… I’ve run out of words to describe how bad they are. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/51 "2011-10-13T14:02:00Z")
So, the Rams just put thier _other_ starting CB on IR. So far, that is 6 CBs that have gone on IR this season (three have since been cut) and leaves them with Justin King, Al Harris and three guys who have been signed in the last two weeks. I am thinking thier opponents do not have to bother suiting up a run game for them any more. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/52 "2011-10-18T18:24:17Z")
The Miami Dolphins did two things Monday Night. They showed how much they need a QB, and they gave the Jets a much-needed ego boost. Indy, meanwhile, lost to the Bengals. That’s the Cincinatti Bengals, as in, the “Cincinatti Bengals(!)” What a topsy-turvy world, huh? The Rams, bless their wittle hearts, actually are trying to get better for this year, trading for hands-of-steel/brain-of-jello WR Brandon Lloyd. For rankings this week, I calculated the teams’ opponents winning percentage not including wins against that team. Interestingly, this gives the exact opposite rankings compared to point differentila per game. So we have St. Louis getting completely wholloped by good teams, and Indianapolis slightly less wholloped by teams that have a collective losing record if not for beating the Colts. **Indianapolis Colts .464 (-9.8/gm)** Andrew Luck publically says “Suck for Luck” fan campaigns are stupid. He’s actually secretly behind the Indy movement. **Miami Dolphins .552 (-10.6/gm)** This team needs Moore than just a QB. Tony Sporano will get fired, Mike Nolan will take over, then pick Nick Foles out of Arizona because he doesn’t llike Luck’s 'tude. **St. Louis Rams .609 (-17.9/gm)** I just read an article judging Luck’s trade value to be at least three 1styards Rounders, with at least one needing to be a top-ten pick. So now we know what St. Louis will be getting next April. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/53 "2011-10-18T18:40:16Z")
I don’t think the Rams will have the 1st pick. They’re in such a weak division and they still have to play the Browns. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/54 "2011-10-18T18:48:20Z")
Don’t count out the Panthers. Sure everyone is high on Cam and they most certainly would trade the #1, but they are 1 - 5 with a run D you could drive a truck through. They play Indy later on which could be a critical game in the race. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/55 "2011-10-18T18:51:23Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > with a run D you could drive a truck through. Does anyone have a run D that you could NOT drive a truck through? Or, you know, over? ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/56 "2011-10-18T19:15:33Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Does anyone have a run D that you could NOT drive a truck through? > > Or, you know, over? I’d like to see the truck vs. Ndamukong Suh. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/57 "2011-10-18T19:42:09Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Does anyone have a run D that you could NOT drive a truck through? > > Or, you know, over? Yeah… I meant they left holes big enough, but sure, you drive _over_ them… ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/58 "2011-10-18T23:11:10Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > I don’t think the Rams will have the 1st pick. They’re in such a weak division and they still have to play the Browns. There is no way we (The Rams) will get the 1st pick.Hell, we might even win the division. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/59 "2011-10-19T06:06:13Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > The Miami Dolphins did two things Monday Night. They showed how much they need a QB, and they gave the Jets a much-needed ego boost. Indy, meanwhile, lost to the Bengals. That’s the Cincinatti Bengals, as in, the “Cincinatti Bengals(!)” What a topsy-turvy world, huh? > > The Rams, bless their wittle hearts, actually are trying to get better for this year, trading for hands-of-steel/brain-of-jello WR Brandon Lloyd. > > For rankings this week, I calculated the teams’ opponents winning percentage not including wins against that team. Interestingly, this gives the exact opposite rankings compared to point differentila per game. So we have St. Louis getting completely wholloped by good teams, and Indianapolis slightly less wholloped by teams that have a collective losing record if not for beating the Colts. > > **Indianapolis Colts .464 (-9.8/gm)** > Andrew Luck publically says “Suck for Luck” fan campaigns are stupid. He’s actually secretly behind the Indy movement. > > **Miami Dolphins .552 (-10.6/gm)** > This team needs Moore than just a QB. Tony Sporano will get fired, Mike Nolan will take over, then pick Nick Foles out of Arizona because he doesn’t llike Luck’s 'tude. > > **St. Louis Rams .609 (-17.9/gm)** > I just read an article judging Luck’s trade value to be at least three 1styards Rounders, with at least one needing to be a top-ten pick. So now we know what St. Louis will be getting next April. Its crazy what a topsy turvy world the parity driven NFL is, especially when a franchise continually lambasted as the worst in the NFL won their division in 2009 and is 4-2 in 2011. What a shocker! ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661/60 "2011-10-21T15:08:17Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > I’d like to see the truck vs. Ndamukong Suh. Sure the truck loses there, but only because Suh would cheap-shot it. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-for-luck-the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2011-ed/595661.md?page=4)