# Suck in that pop culture dammit (Can't believe you haven't seen Pulp Fiction) . . . **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2001, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865 "2001-09-26T04:34:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/61 "2001-09-26T19:38:40Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Edward The Head** _ > > So listening to classical music makes you more educated huh? Why? not like there’s much in the way of lyrics so what do you learn from listening to it? Oh yeah usually how great God is. Yes - all classical music is sung, in Latin, and beyond that, there is nothing to learn from it. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Does that mean I’m really educated then since the majority of the music I listen to is about history and lit. You’ve already proven your education to us, thank you very much. Let’s not go overboard now… Esprix ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/62 "2001-09-26T19:41:21Z")
> [@](#): > > How the hell do you figure that? So listening to classical music makes you more educated huh? Why? not like there’s much in the way of lyrics so what do you learn from listening to it? Oh yeah usually how great God is. Umm, actually _Das Lied von die Erde_ has lyrics, supposedly adapted from 7th century Chinese poetry. I say listening to serious (“Classical” really only refers to the 18th century composers, like Mozart and Haydn) music makes you more more educated because it requires greater depth of thought to understand its structures. For example, you can listen to any given symphony, and hear how the composer creates a simple motif, takes it whirling through different tempos and across different families of instruments and then brings it safely home again. I don’t think Busta Rhymes can do that. That is not to say that enjoying Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony makes you any more worthwhile a human than enjoying rap. There’s a lot of skill involved in hitting a beat with the right words in the right intonation. Eminem and Jay-Z are awesome. However, as much fun as hiphop is, most of it is ephemera, destined to be as forgotten as Rudy Vallee. Some hiphop artists might leave a legacy (my money is on The Roots), but most won’t because they had nothing deep within them. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/63 "2001-09-26T19:45:43Z")
I hate to break this to all you hep-cats, but truly cool people don’t have to talk about how cool they are to prove they’re cool. They just know it. Like me. Damn it! ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/64 "2001-09-26T19:46:37Z")
[DaLovinDJ\*\* I just found it silly to start a pit thread about the fact that someone hadn’t seen Pulp Fiction. I found that: > [@](#): > > “…I met a girl recently who has never seen Pulp Fiction. You must be kidding me. How could you not have seen that movie? Lived under a rock? In a fuckin’ tent maybe? In Antarctica? Jesus. Catch up…” Yeah, I know you said in the sentence before that people here are genereally well read and everything, but still, some have decided not to see that movie. I saw it with friends and was very unimpressed. Pop culture is mostly self-referential, and is limited. The best movies/books I have seen/read were suggested by friends, or when I went out on a limb and picked up something that looked interesting even though I hadn’t heard of it before. I agree that there are some classics that have influenced the way people write books or make movies, and that having knowledge of them is going to help you understand movies and books being writen now. However, there is so much out there (both movies and books, let’s not even get started on music:D) that with the limited time I have on this earth, I have chosen to experience some and therefore do no have the time to experience them all. It all boils down to what you like most. Some pop culture references _whooosh!_ me outright. Others, I don’t even have to have seen the movie they’re making fun of, I can deduce from context and previews/reviews/etc… But if you want to talk about Cronenberg’s or Lynch’s movies, or about ‘Pi’ (excellent movie, very original) or some of William S. Burrough’s books or Robert Anton Wilson or C.S. Hyatt or McKenna or Leary or Crowley or… Well, I hope you understand my point. Everyone here has different interests and tastes. That’s what makes this place interesting. I think probably your intentions were good, but maybe you should be more open to differing opinions. There’s nothing wrong with you if haven’t read any of the authors I mentioned, same as there is nothing wrong with someone who has decided not to see Pulp Fiction. Do not ascribe ignorance to people who have chosen to experience different parts of the wide spectrum that is culture. People will respond better, I think. \*_**-) K.os**_ ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/65 "2001-09-26T19:49:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Edward The Head \* > How the hell do you figure that? So listening to classical music makes you more educated huh? Why? Defensive much? No, listening to Classical doesn’t necessarily MAKE you more educated, but being familiar with the history of an art form is always a good idea. In art, in drama, in literature, in music. It’s just a good thing. > [@](#): > > not like there’s much in the way of lyrics so what do you learn from listening to it? Oh yeah usually how great God is. :rolleyes: Really. You obviously know **nothing** about Classical music, so could you stop embarrassing yourself here? > [@](#): > > The only reason to know anything about classical stuff is so when you come across it in reference during a movie/book/music. Any other argument is total bullshit. ::cough cough:: Oh _puulleeeeeeze_. What is this whiney shit, “Well, no on _really_ likes that stuff! It it’s over my head, it must be over your head too!” Give me a break. Bullshit. I _grew up_ listening to Classical. My parents (blue collar workers) loved it. My mom played Classical piano, my dad had a collection of thousands of LPs. But I am not even the greatest scholar on the stuff - many Dopers here know far more than me. But I grew up loving it. One of the first albums I owned (at about age 12) ever was “Copland’s Rodeo”. My favorite singer at age 12 was Ivan Reebroff (sp?). I thought the “1812 Overture” was the coolest. I still love and listen to Classical daily. My radio never strays from the Classical station. It’s WHAT I LIKE, OK? And I certainly am not the only one. People crowd into the Hollywood Bowl to listen to concerts - and they are not old stuffy intellectuals. Just people who love this music. ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/66 "2001-09-26T19:51:51Z")
**Legomancer** : Great post. I’m laughing my ass off: > [@](#): > > Likewise with Pulp Fiction, which I have seen and enjoy. I can understand that you should see the movie if you plan on discussing it, or such, but does recognizing the Royale With Cheese quote make you a better person? Does making the Royale With Cheese quote make you a better person? Better person? No. Better equipped person? Yes. > [@](#): > > I do think it helps you to know these things, to know where there culture is and came from. And I admit that I get a little weirded out by people who have no familiarity with Romeo and Juliet. But Pulp Fiction? Call me elitist, but maybe, like saints, there needs to be a waiting period before we canonize pop culture things. Interesting point. Should time be the only factor? Should overall impact also be considered? Is there such a thing as an instant classic? > [@](#): > > I think being able to refer to things that are part of the shared consciousness of a society can increase your communication ability. However, that makes the assumption that (a) you’re communicating something other than 'hey, remember this quote from Star Wars? Definately. It’s more like “You know what I’m talking about? It’s like when Han blasted the alien in the Cantina, if you know it’s gonna be on, strike first!” Now I’ve used a scene from a movie to elaborate on my point that you shouldn’t avoid conflict. > [@](#): > > (b) the consciousness truly is shared. Part of the problem with the whole pop culture thing is that on the one hand, people want to argue that this is part of culture, so it should be known by all, but on the other hand, you get bonus points for having a more obscure cereal box on your t-shirt than the other guy has. True, knowing obscure stuff can come in real handy, but everybody should have at least a base knowledge, like required reading lists in grade school. > [@](#): > > Pity the guy wearing “Boo Berry” when “Fruit Brute” walks in. Too much. It took me a while to stop laughing. DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/67 "2001-09-26T19:54:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*dalovindj says: \*But if you wish to speak intelligently about certain subjects, it is much easier if you are familiar with the most important aspects of that subject. As someone who has worked within the film community for years, I can honestly say I’ve never had an intelligent conversation that hinged on my fluency of _The Sound of Music_. And the I-don’t-know-Prokofiev kills me because that means you aren’t fluent in **two** media–not only 20th-century music history but film history, too. > [@](#): > > It annoys me when people don’t go and experience for themselves the art that large chunks of the population find to be important. Large chunks, eh? So you’re saying films like _Armageddon, Twister, Home Alone_ and _The Mummy Returns_ are essential viewing? After all, they’re amongst the biggest all-time moneymakers\* so **someone** must have thought they were important. > [@](#): > > Other than that, I don’t watch much TV these days. So no _Friends, Survivor, Buffy_ or _Sopranos_, all inarguably popular and arguably “important” in their own ways? May I respond with your own words: > [@](#): > > You must be kidding me. How could you not have seen that…? Lived under a rock? In a fuckin’ tent maybe? In Antarctica? Jesus. Catch up. Oh, and a “cannon” shoots cannonballs. [sub]\*not adjusted for inflation[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/68 "2001-09-26T19:54:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > Hey, at least it keeps Allan Bloom off the streets! This is why I love interacting through a message board. Had you said that in person, you would have been the lucky recipient of my blank stare and “…um, huh?” response. Instead, thanks to some quick typing, I can feign familiarity with _The Closing of the American Mind_ and say that I knew exactly what you meant, and congratulate you on a well-made reference. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Humble\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/47e85d/32.png) [@Humble\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Humble_Servant)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/69 "2001-09-26T20:11:09Z")
I believe six feet of dirt is keeping Allan Bloom off the streets permanently.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/70 "2001-09-26T20:21:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*I’ll marry the man who understands and reads Kerensky. \*\* Must switch college major…must switch college major… ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/71 "2001-09-26T20:27:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yosemitebabe \* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Edward The Head \* > > How the hell do you figure that? So listening to classical music makes you more educated huh? Why? > > Defensive much? > > No, listening to Classical doesn’t necessarily MAKE you more educated, but being familiar with the history of an art form is always a good idea. In art, in drama, in literature, in music. It’s just a good thing. not really, just knowing history means nothing. > [@](#): > > not like there’s much in the way of lyrics so what do you learn from listening to it? Oh yeah usually how great God is. > > :rolleyes: Really. You obviously know **nothing** about Classical music, so could you stop embarrassing yourself here? Lets see the majority of music that I played in the Orchestra in both high school and college there was little to no singing, and what there was was mostly religious music. The majority of Bach’s music is also religious is it not? I’ve forgotten most of my classical music but what I do remember is mostly religious work. > [@](#): > > The only reason to know anything about classical stuff is so when you come across it in reference during a movie/book/music. Any other argument is total bullshit. > > ::cough cough:: > > Oh _puulleeeeeeze_. What is this whiney shit, “Well, no on _really_ likes that stuff! It it’s over my head, it must be over your head too!” Give me a break. never said it was over my head did I? nope, I wrote that wrong so let me try again. Knowing classical music, books etc is only good to the majority of people to understand a joke or talking to someone. I didn’t say that the only people that listen are intellectuals. It wasn’t whiney either. > [@](#): > > t. I _grew up_ listening to Classical. My parents (blue collar workers) loved it. My mom played Classical piano, my dad had a collection of thousands of LPs. and? you trying to puff up your chest here or something? I’ve got plenty of LPs, CDs, books too BFHD. I’ve played in all sorts of different bands from Jazz to classical to marching bands again BFHD. The point is that not listening to classical music or reading clasical lit makes you a better person, though around here it sure does seem to. Do’t believe me then really read how people talk about such stuff. Look how people talk about the Beatles or Shakespeare, don’t try and tell them you don’t like it because they’ll lay into for not getting it. ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/72 "2001-09-26T20:29:44Z")
**ArchiveGuy** : > [@](#): > > And the I-don’t-know-Prokofiev kills me because that means you aren’t fluent in two media–not only 20th-century music history but film history, too. I never claimed to know everything, but I’m dying to learn. Why is this film and music? I’d do a search, but I’m mixing posting and working all day, and don’t have the spare keystrokes for research at the moment. Not knowing isn’t stupid. Not asking is. > [@](#): > > Large chunks, eh? So you’re saying films like Armageddon, Twister, Home Alone and The Mummy Returns are essential viewing? After all, they’re amongst the biggest all-time moneymakers\* so someone must have thought they were important. Just because large numbers of people have SEEN the movies, doesn’t mean that they think they are important. Upon discussing those films with friends I typically get responses like “Good action, bad writing, unrealistic storyline.” These are not movies that anyone I know would consider important or must-see. > [@](#): > > So no Friends, Survivor, Buffy or Sopranos, all inarguably popular and arguably “important” in their own ways? May I respond with your own words: > > You must be kidding me. How could you not have seen that…? Lived under a rock? In a fuckin’ tent maybe? In Antarctica? Jesus. Catch up. No, I’ve been living in New York working 3 jobs and trying to date, while at the same time engaging in a delightfully large amount of partying. I’m barely home, and when I am it’s to sleep. I’ll eventually see all of the Soprano’s (they’re gonna be on DVD), I read all about Survivor on the net, and I’ve never partaken of Friends or Buffy. I can’t find the time unless I can schedule the time. And TV has it’s own schedule, and we don’t have a VCR that can record. So I miss most good TV. I won’t miss Star Trek tonight though. Incidently, similar arguments make it forgivable for not having seen the movies or read the books of which I speak. If you’ve been busy getting a doctorate in physics, I can understand. If you’re studying to be a lawyer, a couple extra hours for entertainment may be hard to find. But the girl from the OP wants to be an actress for christ sake. Don’t get me wrong, I’d still sleep with her, she just needs to see a few movies and read a few goddamn books or it’s straight-to-video at best. \*\*Oh, and a “cannon” shoots cannonballs. \*\* I concede the point. There are far many better typists than me here. I think faster than I write (unlike some here who seem to have the opposite problem). I sometimes preview, but sometimes I’m busy. I am doomed to live amongst the typo commoners. DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/73 "2001-09-26T20:33:02Z")
> [@](#): > > Had you said that in person, you would have been the lucky recipient of my blank stare and “…um, huh?” response. Instead, thanks to some quick typing, I can feign familiarity with The Closing of the American Mind and say that I knew exactly what you meant, and congratulate you on a well-made reference. Thanks, but I was actually thinking of Harold Bloom, author of _The Western Canon_, not Allan Bloom, the late, gay cultural gadfly, or even of Molly Bloom, reminiscing about her girlhood in Gibraltar, her adulterous affair with Blazes Boylan, and the night her husband, Leopold proposed to her, and she said “Yes I will, Yes.” ---
**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/74 "2001-09-26T20:37:52Z")
I also feel obliged to point out the large number of people I’ve seen who believe pop-culture knowledge is essential, who have absolutely no concept of anything that happened more than twenty years go. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/75 "2001-09-26T20:49:43Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by dalovindj \*\*\* > Great post. I’m laughing my ass off:_\* Premier, Kiss off.[sup]\*[/sup] > [@](#): > > **Better person? No. Better equipped person? Yes.** No it doesn’t. Watching _The Cincinatti Kid_ doesn’t make you a better equipped person, but being able to recognize the film’s similarities to Pushkin’s The Queen of Spades does. > [@](#): > > **Is there such a thing as an instant classic?** Rarely. > [@](#): > > **Definately. It’s more like “You know what I’m talking about? It’s like when Han blasted the alien in the Cantina, if you know it’s gonna be on, strike first!” Now I’ve used a scene from a movie to elaborate on my point that you shouldn’t avoid conflict.** And you end up sounding like a nerdy virginal, pasty-faced, socially-awkward Trekkie (sorry, Trekk_er_) or whatever the term is for those obsessed with _Star Wars_. _Phanton Menace_? Haven’t seen it. I’m a rather corpulant _Dr. Who_ fan, but I don’t go out of my way to work it into explaining a situation. Unless I’m talking to other fans, and even then I avoid it. IMHO, using movie scenes as schorthand for explaining a real-life situation isn’t being cultured (or whatever), it’s being to lazy to use your own words. > [@](#): > > **True, knowing obscure stuff can come in real handy, but everybody should have at least a base knowledge, like required reading lists in grade school.** So, by your standards, we all have to see movies _A_, _B_, _Q_, _X_, and _Y_? > [@](#): > > **Too much. It took me a while to stop laughing.** Same here, only laughing _at_ you, not _with_ you. > [@](#): > > \*\*DaLovin’ Dj \*\* No no no no no no! It’s _The Loving DJ_ Say it! The Loving DJ Say it damn you! [sub]\* A _Dr. Strangelove_ reference for anyone who actually cares.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/76 "2001-09-26T20:58:28Z")
By corpulant, I mean large or big. As in “I’m a big fan of X and Y”. > [@](#): > > schorthand Yes, it was supposed to be shorthand. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/77 "2001-09-26T21:32:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*[Thanks, but I was actually thinking of Harold Bloom, author of _The Western Canon_, not Allan Bloom, the late, gay cultural gadfly, or even of Molly Bloom, reminiscing about her girlhood in Gibraltar, her adulterous affair with Blazes Boylan, and the night her husband, Leopold proposed to her, and she said “Yes I will, Yes.” \*\* :eek: O the shame of it. I thought you were referring to \< pop-culture reference \> _Milo_ Bloom, who wrote: \* Gimme Twinkies, Gimme wine Gimme Jeans by Calvin Klein But if you split those atoms fine Mama keep 'em off those genes of mine! Gimme zits, take my dough Gimme arsenic in my jelly-roll Call the devil and sell my soul But mama keep dem atoms whole \* \ \ Beautiful, wasn’t it? I think that about sums it off for this discussion. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/78 "2001-09-26T22:13:34Z")
How I love to watch the morn, With golden sun that shines Up above to nicely warm These frosty toes of mine. The wind doth taste of bittersweet, Like Jasper wine and sugar; I bet it’s blown through others’ feet, Like those of… Caspar Weinberger. - Opus (“Start over!” - Milo) Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/79 "2001-09-26T22:23:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Legomancer \* > \*\*I also feel obliged to point out the large number of people I’ve seen who believe pop-culture knowledge is essential, who have absolutely no concept of anything that happened more than twenty years go. \*\* Hold on a second here. “More than twenty years ago”? TWENTY years ago? Oh man. This is going to shake my Young Earth Creation faith to the core. After flirting with Last Planck-length Intervalism, I had settled on the fact that YHVH-1 (Bastard Alien God from some Corporate Sin Galaxy) created Earth NINETEEN years ago (due to highly occult reasons having to do with gematria and numerology), with all memories of the new people (self included) manufactured to make it appear older. Damn these crises of faith. ---
**Author:** ![toshirodragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@toshirodragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toshirodragon)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865/80 "2001-09-26T22:35:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by **dalovindj** _ > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > I mean, I think people should be able to recognize the works of Bruckner, Mahler, Sibelius and Prokofiev, but many people don’t care. > > > > These are authors or film makers? I’ll have to check it out on google. What is the topic? > > { **Esprix** weeps openly} > > Esprix \*\* There there Esprix…_hands him my sons blanket_ the heathen will be stuck down… preferably by a large truck 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-in-that-pop-culture-dammit-cant-believe-you-havent-seen-pulp-fiction/83865.md?page=5)