# suck it you hateful bigoted degenerate whore-mothered goat-fucking trash(gay marriage ban overturned

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 5, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214 "2010-08-05T02:00:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/61 "2010-08-05T16:59:24Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Exactly. I thought you liberal were touchy-feely open-minde guy and here you come dissing my mum.

You know what would be even less touchy-feely than dissing your mom? Passing laws to prevent her from marrying the person she loves. So, comparatively, we _are_ the touchy-feely ones here.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/62 "2010-08-05T17:12:24Z")

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> [@little\_bit](#):
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> Am I the only one who thinks this is an instance of “read again for comprehension”?  
> Doesn’t the title say (if it applies to you) your mother is a whore & you fuck goats?  
> 😕

You think I learnt goat-fucking on my own?? What’s a mum for?

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/63 "2010-08-05T17:31:05Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> More true than you know.
> 
> Not to get law-geeky here, but I say that because it’s a perfect example: blonds are not a protected class (ignoring the correlation between hair color and race for illustrative purposes). So a law burdening only blonds would be reviewed under the rational basis test, NOT the strict scrutiny test. In other words, in analyzing the blond law, the court would NOT ask, “Is there a compelling government interest?” That’s not a part of rational basis analysis.
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> In my view, the correct answer here is to conclude that sexual orientation is like gender, and thus deserves _intermediate scrutiny_.

Well…

Would it though? I guess it would depend on how the law was written. Blondness is not an immutable characteristic, but it is very linked to national origin, which receives strict scrutiny. I think you could make an argument **depending on the law** , to use strict scrutiny on a law which discriminated on the basis of blondness.

And, as I mentioned in the other thread, you are right on intermediate scrutiny.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/64 "2010-08-05T19:20:23Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> This is one of the parts of constitutional jurisprudence that I hate the most–in my view, the entire concept of levels of scrutiny was invented out of whole cloth to turn “equal protection” into “no, no, we still hate and fear YOU, so equal protection magically doesn’t apply”.

On that, as usual, here’s some love for s.15 of the _Charter of Rights and Freedoms_ and _Egan v. Canada_ (“sexual orientation is […] a deeply personal characteristic that is either unchangeable or changeable only at unacceptable personal costs, and so falls within the ambit of s. 15 protection as being analogous to the enumerated grounds”).

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/65 "2010-08-05T19:27:23Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> From [this story](http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/08/05/20100805california-gay-marriage-ruling-impacting-arizona-laws.html):
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> > [@](#):
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> > “(Walker) basically disenfranchised 7 million California voters and said, ' **I’m smarter than 7 million Californians** , and my will is going to be imposed here rather than yours.”
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> Well…yeah, when it comes to civil rights, he kind of is. This is something that should never have been voted on in the first place.

And what pure irony to refer to imposing will. Seems to me, since nobody made SSM mandatory, that the people imposing their will are the ones trying to prevent consenting adults from getting married, not the ones trying to allow it.

What are the Prop 8 supporters being imposed upon to do? They don’t have to marry a same-sex partner. They don’t have to attend a same-sex marriage. They don’t have to allow same-sex marriage in their churches. They don’t even have to like same-sex marriages.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/66 "2010-08-05T19:36:25Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> > [@Bosstone](#):
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> > From [this story](http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/08/05/20100805california-gay-marriage-ruling-impacting-arizona-laws.html):Well…yeah, when it comes to civil rights, he kind of is. This is something that should never have been voted on in the first place.
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> And what pure irony to refer to imposing will. Seems to me, since nobody made SSM mandatory, that the people imposing their will are the ones trying to prevent consenting adults from getting married, not the ones trying to allow it.
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> What are the Prop 8 supporters being imposed upon to do? They don’t have to marry a same-sex partner. They don’t have to attend a same-sex marriage. They don’t have to allow same-sex marriage in their churches. They don’t even have to like same-sex marriages.

Maybe they will be forced to felch a dead goat.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/67 "2010-08-05T19:37:24Z")

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And how about those activist judges on the '54 Supreme Court? Who the hell were \*they \*to tell \*us \*we couldn’t segregate our schools?!

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/68 "2010-08-05T19:44:27Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> In my view, the correct answer here is to conclude that sexual orientation is like gender, and thus deserves _intermediate scrutiny_.

Why is it more like gender than race? Put differently, what is the rationale behind subjecting race to strict scrutiny and gender to intermediate scrutiny, and why should the latter apply to sexual orientation? Does the rationale have something to do with the fact that sometimes it’s approppriate to discriminate between genders/sexes (no dudes in the ladies’ room; there’s a presumption that young children belong with their moms) whereas it’s hard to think of a reason it would be appropriate to discriminate on race/ethnicity/nationality (happened once, right?)? If so, when is it appropriate to discrimnate based on sexual orientation?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/69 "2010-08-05T19:47:31Z")

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Look, what you all need to understand about this whole thing is . . .

Wait. 😕

There’s something outside my window . . .

It seems to be a velociraptor. With a guy riding on its back. Wearing a Waffen SS uniform.

Excuse me, I’ll get back to you.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/70 "2010-08-05T19:49:05Z")

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_Seriously?_ Everybody knows that only Mexicans ride raptors.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/71 "2010-08-05T19:51:12Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> _Seriously?_ Everybody knows that only Mexicans ride raptors.

Dude, I totally want to be Mexican now.

I thought it was Jamaicans with big teeth that rode raptors.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/72 "2010-08-05T19:51:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Seriously? Everybody knows that only Mexicans ride raptors.

And who said Mexicans couldn’t be Nazis? Oppressor!

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/73 "2010-08-05T19:57:32Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Seriously? Everybody knows that only Mexicans ride raptors.
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> And who said Mexicans couldn’t be Nazis? Oppressor!

Ayuda! Ayuda! Estoy siendo oprimidos!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/74 "2010-08-05T19:58:43Z")

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Mi aerodeslizador esta lleno de gringos.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/75 "2010-08-05T20:12:19Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I thought it was Jamaicans with big teeth that rode raptors.

Nope. Mexicans. ([Cite.](http://drmcninja.com/archives/comic/3p20))

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> And who said Mexicans couldn’t be Nazis? Oppressor!

Pretty sure that would be the Nazis. They were pretty up on racial purity, and most Mexicans have a mixed heritage of people native to the region and the Spanish who colonized.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/76 "2010-08-05T20:45:53Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> > And who said Mexicans couldn’t be Nazis? Oppressor!
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> Ayuda! Ayuda! Estoy siendo oprimidos!

How about a translation for those of us who don’t speak German?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/77 "2010-08-05T20:51:33Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > [@Revtim](#):
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> > Ayuda! Ayuda! Estoy siendo oprimidos!
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> How about a translation for those of us who don’t speak German?

Aid! Aid! I am being pressed!

¡Venga ver la violencia inherente en el sistema!

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/78 "2010-08-05T21:03:06Z")

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German, Spanish, tomayto, tomahto. **waves hand dismissively**

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/79 "2010-08-05T21:03:37Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> What are the Prop 8 supporters being imposed upon to do?

Come on, man. Just because there’s a clearly correct side of the argument doesn’t mean you can just throw out any old argument or feign ignorance about the other side. Clearly, it’s stuff like tax breaks and whatnot. Is it an imposition? Yes. Is it new? Yes. Bam. Thought of one. Wasn’t even that hard.

The marriage club just got a little less exclusive. You don’t have to be against the expansion to see why that might tick a few people off.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-it-you-hateful-bigoted-degenerate-whore-mothered-goat-fucking-trash-gay-marriage-ban-overturned/549214/80 "2010-08-05T21:05:31Z")

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It’s not like slavery was compulsory.

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