# Suck My Tar Balls Through Your Vuvuzela - SDMB Poker - Q3, 2010 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 25, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449 "2010-06-25T04:18:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/241 "2010-09-26T20:32:35Z")
nevermind ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/242 "2010-09-27T05:11:43Z")
> [@MentalGuy](#): > > > [@Meeko](#): > > > > I prefer Max Maven over Derren Brown. But I don’t think brown has gotten a fair shake. > > > > Still Maven seems to just bring more to the table. > > I do some Max Maven stuff. He is an excellent creative thinker, but the best stuff I do is from Richard Osterlind. Never heard of Max, but this subthread could be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/243 "2010-09-27T15:29:39Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > > [@MentalGuy](#): > > > > I do some Max Maven stuff. He is an excellent creative thinker, but the best stuff I do is from Richard Osterlind. > > Never heard of Max, but this subthread could be interesting. Does Mentalism work on a Hypnotised [in the traditional sense] person, under trance? I can’t figure if the Hypno is a complete wipe, rendering any other control useless OR if Mentalism isn’t perhaps a few steps into Hypno, and that the rest of hypno comes in, full force, but with the head start that Mentalism gives them. Then again, having some knowlege of Mentalism in the first place is devastating to the craft. On one Derren Brown [What is an instance of the art called, certainly not an illusion] Derren had the TV audience pick a person by their headshot against the background of a live action scene [I want to say a College Quad or Courtyard, some such like that. 8 headshot photos were shown, one at a time. As he was doing so, one of the photoed subjects walked into frame for a while. But I caught a glimpse of him doing this. Not exactly knowing why, I made it a point not to chose his photo in the line up. I did not “go along” with Derren’s … experiement. Because Derren re-played the video, and pointed out the fact that the ““correct”” answer walked out during the presentation. That our sub-conscious saw this, but not our conscious mind. The influence of that act was apparently, insurmountable in the face of a “free” choice. ---
**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/244 "2010-09-29T03:03:03Z")
I usually say I am doing a “demonstration” when I am performing, since “illusion” or “trick” implies that I am just fooling the person instead of using an actual mental ability. Of course I am just doing a magic trick with a different presentation, but the important part is making the audience feel that something impossible occurred. A mentalist generally has to look more straightforward and not appear to be doing anything, but at the core we are doing the same sleights and misdirection that you see from the stage magicians and the close-up artists. I have not seen the Derren Brown effect that you mention(and I am not sure I understand it completely), but I would not be surprised if he did not have something unusual about all the subjects that could be pointed to after the fact as the reason they were chosen. My favorite routine to perform is [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ke_jjAuwy8) one from Bob Cassidy. The favorite of my high school students though is the Spoon Bending I learned from [Osterlind](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alR6nheWmq0) though I don’t do it like in the linked video. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/245 "2010-09-30T07:17:11Z")
> [@MentalGuy](#): > > My favorite routine to perform is [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ke_jjAuwy8) one from Bob Cassidy. Took me a minute to figure out how that one was done. ---
**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/246 "2010-09-30T12:48:47Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > Put your thinking caps on for next quarter’s theme! Considering the plethora of polls that we have had lately, how about **Poll: Who would you like to beat at Hold’Em? SDMB Poker - Q4, 2010** If you make it an actual poll, then just list the people that play in our weekly game. Or how about **Keeping Fear Alive. SDMB Poker - Q4, 2010** ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/247 "2010-09-30T14:53:24Z")
I think the 4th qtr theme should be politically theme. **SDMB Poker Teabags the Cratz and Repugs.** Plus, I’ll probably win the poll, which would feed my giant size ego. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/248 "2010-09-30T14:56:08Z")
No love for the Cuban Miners? ---
**Author:** ![CrimeThink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90db22/32.png) [@CrimeThink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrimeThink)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/249 "2010-09-30T15:45:34Z")
How about both with a dash of Glen Beck? Rally to Provide Teabags to Restore Chilean Miner’s Sanity - SDMB Poker Q4, 2010 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/250 "2010-09-30T15:48:51Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > No love for the Cuban Miners? Cubans? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/251 "2010-09-30T16:41:41Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > > [@Meeko](#): > > > > No love for the Cuban Miners? > > Cubans? [Chilean](http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2010/09/29/oppman.chile.miners.update.cnn?iref=allsearch) then? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/252 "2010-10-01T01:46:00Z")
Poker night…15 minutes to log in ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/253 "2010-10-01T03:56:52Z")
Tonight’s Results: 1. Peek 2. Mensa 3. Crime 4. Kitch 5. Red 6. Crane 7. oslo 8. Root 9. Ghost 10. Meeko 11. Missy 12. Mental 13. Ludo 14. Yeti Ludovic almost pulled off the worst to first comeback! But, YETI SMASH! ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/254 "2010-10-01T05:53:55Z")
Final standings of the quarter: 1 Robot Arm 70.2 2 frosted glass 68.3 3 notfrommensa 67.9 4 Oslo Ostragoth 66.9 5 MentalGuy 66.8 6 Yeticus Rex 66.5 7 Dag Otto 61.9 8 Gray Ghost 61.5 9 peekercpa 59.8 10 asterion 58.5 11 Red Skeezix 58.3 12 CrimeThink 57.2 13 MissTake 55.8 14 Craneop2 53.6 15 fubbleskag 49.4 16 Meeko 43.1 17 Duke of Rat 40.3 18 Ludovic 38.8 19 exploding kitchen 25.2 Wins: 3 NFM 2 Gray Ghost, Oslo Ostragoth, Robot Arm 1 Dag Otto, Mental Guy, peeker, red skeezix, yeti Cashes (top three finishes): 5 MentalGuy, NFM, Oslo 4 robot arm 3 crane, gray, red, yeti 2 dag, frosty, meeko, peeker 1 crimethink, ludovic, misstake Bubbles (a measure of frustration): 2 dag, mentalguy, missy, oslo, red 1 asterion, craneop, gray, yeti ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/255 "2010-10-01T11:44:40Z")
Wow, I sucked this quarter. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/256 "2010-10-01T11:58:01Z")
We were thinking of the name for the next quarter and one common theme was: Poll: What was the best Chilean Miner off of \_\_\_\_\_\_\_? One suggestion was the Tea Party Album. I suggest Lady Bieber. Poll: The best Chilean Miner off of Lady Bieber’s album? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/257 "2010-10-01T12:35:39Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > Final standings of the quarter: > > 1 Robot Arm 70.2 Woo hoo! > [@](#): > > Cashes (top three finishes): > > 5 MentalGuy, NFM, Oslo > 4 robot arm > 3 crane, gray, red, yeti > 2 dag, frosty, meeko, peeker > 1 crimethink, ludovic, misstake > > Bubbles (a measure of frustration): > > 2 dag, mentalguy, missy, oslo, red > 1 asterion, craneop, gray, yeti We may need to recalculate those stats going forward. I think the new software has a different formula for the tournament prizes. I would swear that when Missy went out (in fourth place) the message in the text window said she won X amount of chips. I think with the new software, if there are enough players in the game it awards prizes for more than just the top three. Or there might be a way to reconfigure the software. Or we could just ignore it and go on the same as always. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/258 "2010-10-01T13:00:40Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > \ > Wins: > **3 NFM** > 2 Gray Ghost, Oslo Ostragoth, Robot Arm > 1 Dag Otto, Mental Guy, peeker, red skeezix, yeti > \ {emphasis mine} Ahem. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/259 "2010-10-01T19:41:44Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > We may need to recalculate those stats going forward. I think the new software has a different formula for the tournament prizes. I would swear that when Missy went out (in fourth place) the message in the text window said she won X amount of chips. I think with the new software, if there are enough players in the game it awards prizes for more than just the top three. > > Or there might be a way to reconfigure the software. > > Or we could just ignore it and go on the same as always. Yes, I won a whopping 2100 chips coming in 4th. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/260 "2010-10-01T21:10:28Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > We were thinking of the name for the next quarter and one common theme was: > > Poll: What was the best Chilean Miner off of \_\_\_\_\_\_\_? > > One suggestion was the Tea Party Album. > > I suggest Lady Bieber. > > Poll: The best Chilean Miner off of Lady Bieber’s album? My “best” suggestion was: The Chilean Tea Party: Nowhere to go but up. > [@notfrommensa](#): > > > [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > > > \ > > Wins: > > **3 NFM** > > 2 Gray Ghost, Oslo Ostragoth, Robot Arm > > 1 Dag Otto, Mental Guy, peeker, red skeezix, yeti > > \ > > {emphasis mine} > > Ahem. Yeah…yeah…Phil Helmuth wannabe…😉 > [@MissTake](#): > > > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > > We may need to recalculate those stats going forward. I think the new software has a different formula for the tournament prizes. I would swear that when Missy went out (in fourth place) the message in the text window said she won X amount of chips. I think with the new software, if there are enough players in the game it awards prizes for more than just the top three. > > > > Or there might be a way to reconfigure the software. > > > > Or we could just ignore it and go on the same as always. > > Yes, I won a whopping 2100 chips coming in 4th. For next quarter, 4th place finishes should be considered since the PM software awards so many chips for that finish, and maybe we should post the number of chips won next to their name in the results along with a cumulative standings…(whould it reflect the standings of our own ranking system? Hmmmm…) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449.md?page=14)