# Suck My Tar Balls Through Your Vuvuzela - SDMB Poker - Q3, 2010 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 25, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449 "2010-06-25T04:18:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/61 "2010-07-30T03:44:07Z")
with a 5, 1, 2 i really want to see what mensa’s face looks like tomorrow. the dog is going to need some special counseling. 😃 wooooooot. wooooooot. good game ghosty. let’s make it three in a row next week. rubber match, so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/62 "2010-07-30T03:45:09Z")
Fuck this Nanny State. If I want to blow my money on online poker, why can’t I? I mean I flat out don’t get that. Who the fuck thinks they are more high and more mighty than me, fucking elites on the right. [[Re: The free money at party poker, specifically states US is out of the promo.]] ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/63 "2010-07-30T03:47:35Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > with a 5, 1, 2 i really want to see what mensa’s face looks like tomorrow. > > the dog is going to need some special counseling. 😃 > > wooooooot. wooooooot. > > good game ghosty. let’s make it three in a row next week. > > rubber match, so to speak. Sounds good. As I’m on mensa’s “shit list”, I may not be able to make it to the end… In all seriousness, it’s been a crazy and fun two weeks. (still laughing at fubbs just sitting there and still placing 5th…) ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/64 "2010-07-30T03:50:32Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Fuck this Nanny State. If I want to blow my money on online poker, why can’t I? I mean I flat out don’t get that. Who the fuck thinks they are more high and more mighty than me, fucking elites on the right. > > [[Re: The free money at party poker, specifically states US is out of the promo.]] May be a little political for the Game Room, but I don’t think the U.S. Right has a monopoly on hating non-state sanctioned gambling. Both sides would much rather you play their lotteries and horse racing, bucking negative expectations of ~-50-75% and proving Ross Perot’s observation, “The state lottery is a tax on stupid people.” Otherwise, as a small-L libertarian, I totally agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/65 "2010-07-30T03:53:00Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Otherwise, as a small-L libertarian, I totally agree with you. At risk of hijacking, yeah, I was like, “I’m not sounding leftist here, I’m sounding libertarian.” ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/66 "2010-07-30T03:57:57Z")
Heh. \*\* On July 28, 2010, the committee passed H.R. 2267 by a vote of 41-22-1. The bill would legalize and regulate online poker and some other forms of online gambling.[34][35]\*\* Thats tucked away in a wiki article. Anyone have deets on this? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/67 "2010-07-30T04:00:19Z")
WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)–A House panel voted on Wednesday to approve a measure that would seek to regulate many forms of online gambling, in an effort to overturn an existing law that bans the increasingly popular Internet-based gambling. [http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100728-721058.html](http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100728-721058.html) * * * Also: [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-28/house-panel-passes-frank-backed-measure-to-legalize-some-internet-gambling.html](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-28/house-panel-passes-frank-backed-measure-to-legalize-some-internet-gambling.html) ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/68 "2010-07-30T05:06:48Z")
Standings: 1 peekercpa 85.3 2 Gray Ghost 72.5 3 Dag Otto 70.7 4 frosted glass 68.3 5 Red Skeezix 65.6 6 notfrommensa 63.7 7 Robot Arm 63.4 8 Oslo Ostragoth 58.2 9 Craneop2 52.7 10 MissTake 51.4 11 fubbleskag 48.1 12 MentalGuy 45.6 13 Meeko 44.1 14 Yeticus Rex 43.2 I don’t have much to add, except that I am getting uncomfortably close to my former quarters, the basement. I hope that previous occupants will have had my Lazy-Boy fumigated before I arrive. And the 47" flat screen had better be still there. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/69 "2010-07-30T05:44:40Z")
Are you sure those are right? I thought I would have plummeted a lot further than that. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/70 "2010-07-30T08:48:47Z")
so **oslo** i am actually better off this week than i was last week? asshole. 😃 hee hee. woot the fracking woot. 🙂 see you folks next thursday when i am sure that the sun will begin to rise in the east, once again. and **oslo** i swear the stains were there when i arrived. and the 4.7" screen is still there. i even left a couple of double a’s to power it for the next occupant. figuring i would need them to keep current with “i love lucy”. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/71 "2010-07-30T19:07:03Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Thanks for posting it, **Dag**. Good run of cards lately, hope it lasts. > > Funniest part of all was that fubbs placed 5th and never showed; he took 5th of 14 by just being blinded off… Maybe there’s something to that shtick Hellmuth pulls? > > See you all next week. I registered and then promptly fell asleep. Please don’t count this towards the running stats, unless it’s somehow a huge pain to remove it. I wonder if there’d be any value in having a bot every week as some kind of watermark? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/72 "2010-07-30T19:50:30Z")
“…I wonder if there’d be any value in having a bot every week as some kind of **watermark**?..” Bolding Mine **Peeker** is already our resident stain and skidmark. We don’t need another one. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/73 "2010-07-30T20:03:11Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > “…I wonder if there’d be any value in having a bot every week as some kind of **watermark**?..” > > Bolding Mine > > **Peeker** is already our resident stain and skidmark. We don’t need another one. the supplicants are always so jealous of their betters. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/74 "2010-07-31T05:09:30Z")
Negreanu had a not-awful week: > [@RealKidPoker](#): > > Played 4 hr session on PokerStars and won another 50k. On quite a heater +$389,675 straight [for the week - added by Oslo]. Tired now, will be back again tmr night. For a young guy, I think he has this online poker thing figured out. He tweeted today about having laser hair removal from his neck, back and chest. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/75 "2010-08-03T03:10:10Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > I wonder if there’d be any value in having a bot every week as some kind of watermark? I second fbbs doing everything he can, so long as that it always means a 3rd or better place for me. I mean, I think a lot of us would be content with a consistent third place here. 😃 Peeker as a “skidmark” ? Guess that leaves him with a consistent turd place. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/76 "2010-08-03T03:19:52Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > I wonder if there’d be any value in having a bot every week as some kind of watermark? I thought of suggesting that once, but it alters the game in unpredictable ways. Whoever winds up sitting to the right of the bot probably gets an unfair advantage. When that player posts the small blind, if the table folds around to him he can steal the big blind with no risk of being called. (Of course, the player to his right will know this too, and knows he’s getting that much better odds to call with the big blind sitting out.) If the seats are determined randomly, any advantage would even out over time, but I’d still rather not throw in a random element that affects the play. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/77 "2010-08-05T04:19:25Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > [@fubbleskag](#): > > > > I wonder if there’d be any value in having a bot every week as some kind of watermark? > > I thought of suggesting that once, but it alters the game in unpredictable ways. Couldn’t we not reverse engineer a bot, after the game? Would it mirror the blind structures in any way? I mean, it just seems to me, if it is indeed a watermark [as I understand how you guys are using the term] it would be a simple [Ok, not that simple] matter of math, regardless of who is playing. Then again, we all know where I live most often in the standings, probably below the watermark, so take this with a grain of salt. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/78 "2010-08-05T19:30:56Z")
Courtesy bump You’re somewhat correct Meeko, with the blind structure and pace, a robot will last a predictable amount of time. With the 13-14 players that we typically have, robot will last about 5-10 minutes after the break. If we have a bigger field, robot will last a little longer, a shorter field, a not quite as long. With the 13-14 players, the table only have 6-7 players and the robot will have to post more blinds than if we started with 18 players. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/79 "2010-08-05T21:11:07Z")
My goal: To last as long as a bot. I could probably do it, but I’ll screw up and try to think for myself and play some hands. My weakness, my burden, my downfall. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/80 "2010-08-06T00:55:44Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > My goal: > > To last as long as a bot. > > I could probably do it, but I’ll screw up and try to think for myself and play some hands. My weakness, my burden, my downfall. Welcome to my world, Duckie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449.md?page=5)