# Suck My Tar Balls Through Your Vuvuzela - SDMB Poker - Q3, 2010

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 25, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449 "2010-06-25T04:18:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/141 "2010-08-20T17:22:10Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> well, the inevitable plummet to the ground without a parachute is occuring.
> 
> man, those were some miserable cards last night.

Hey, I fell from 6th to 8th and I didn’t even play.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/142 "2010-08-20T17:29:38Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> now wait the fucking minute. when did i ever get lumped in with **skeezy**?

I’m perplexed as well. Skeeze knows how to play poker.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/143 "2010-08-20T17:41:22Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > [@peekercpa](#):
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> > well, the inevitable plummet to the ground without a parachute is occuring.
> > 
> > man, those were some miserable cards last night.
> 
> Hey, I fell from 6th to 8th and I didn’t even play.

should have just botted. fuck that seems to be good strategy for you.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/144 "2010-08-23T06:23:29Z")

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> [@CrimeThink](#):
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> I’d like to give this a shot. I’m ready to give Meeko a run for his money for last place. I’ve only played a handful of real money games with friends and a bit of free money online games, but I’m looking to get better. I’ll set up the accounts and let you know my usernames when I get out of work.

We’ll be glad to have another butt in the chairs, whether you suck or kick our asses.

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/145 "2010-08-23T13:41:57Z")

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Sorry for the no-show on Thursday everyone. Got called out of town on business, but I’m looking forward to this weeks game if there’s room.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/146 "2010-08-23T13:57:48Z")

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There’s always room for additional players.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/147 "2010-08-23T14:03:06Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> There’s always room for additional players.

oh for goodness sakes no more “players”. i need some dead wood, fcs. each additional “player” just sends me down one more level. i’m thinking of getting my sister in law’s three year old to sign up just to have a chance. but then random key strokes might be more effective than my “strategy”. 🙂

i mean when there were only 6 - 8 of us i was pretty much guaranteed a top 10 finish.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/148 "2010-08-26T20:20:35Z")

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Bump.

PMed **Chessic Sense** , he said he got trapped by his girlfriend. I told him that he get his y-chromosomes back if he played poker with us tonight.

**CrimeThink** and **Shark Sandwich**., come join us.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/149 "2010-08-26T23:45:01Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Bump.
> 
> PMed **Chessic Sense** , he said he got trapped by his girlfriend. I told him that he get his y-chromosomes back if he played poker with us tonight.
> 
> **CrimeThink** and **Shark Sandwich**., come join us.

i am not sure that he has any y-chromosones.

let’s see if a little smack motivates him.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/150 "2010-08-27T03:51:50Z")

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Results for 26 August 2010

17 redskeezix  
16 ludovic  
15 oslo  
14 crane  
13 meeko  
12 dag  
11 duke  
10 chessic  
9 crimethink  
8 fubbs  
7 peeker  
6 mensa  
5 root  
4 missy  
3 mental  
2 yeti  
1 gray ghost

Cumulative results compiled by Oslo, I’m sure will be up soon. Giant turn-out; hope everyone had fun.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/151 "2010-08-27T05:08:07Z")

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Damn, I’d like to have those last two hands to play over again.

Congratulations, G. G.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/152 "2010-08-27T12:39:57Z")

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that was fun last night. cruddy cards but what the hey. and that may be the first time since i started participating that we still had two tables going at the break. shoot when i first started we didn’t even fill up one table to start with and half the time we were done before the break.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/153 "2010-08-27T16:02:44Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Damn, I’d like to have those last two hands to play over again.
> 
> Congratulations, G. G.

Thanks for the well-wishes.

What were the two hands that broke you? I think you were on the other table when it happened, so I didn’t see how it went down.

Crazy run of cards last night. Loved having 17 people in the group, the more the merrier.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/154 "2010-08-27T19:35:49Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> Thanks for the well-wishes.
> 
> What were the two hands that broke you? I think you were on the other table when it happened, so I didn’t see how it went down.

You were the one who beat me in those two hands.

Five players, I think I was second-shortest stack. Pocket jacks, I think you raised pre-flop and I called. Flop was 6-7-8 (two diamonds and a heart, I think), you made a big bet. You may have a made straight, a flush draw, or a high pocket pair; and we’ve all heard horror stories of playing pocket jacks. I folded, you showed pocket tens.

Which took some of my stack. I went all-in next hand with K-J. Your pocket nines held up, and I was done.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/155 "2010-08-27T19:49:09Z")

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I think I played my pocket jacks perfectly last night. Hit a Jack on the flop, and then the fourth jack hit on the turn.

For once, I was not one jack-off.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/156 "2010-08-27T20:07:21Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> > Thanks for the well-wishes.
> > 
> > What were the two hands that broke you? I think you were on the other table when it happened, so I didn’t see how it went down.
> 
> You were the one who beat me in those two hands.
> 
> Five players, I think I was second-shortest stack. Pocket jacks, I think you raised pre-flop and I called. Flop was 6-7-8 (two diamonds and a heart, I think), you made a big bet. You may have a made straight, a flush draw, or a high pocket pair; and we’ve all heard horror stories of playing pocket jacks. I folded, you showed pocket tens.
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> Which took some of my stack. I went all-in next hand with K-J. Your pocket nines held up, and I was done.

That’s hilarious: I’ve thought for all this time that you played under the “ **craneop2** ” moniker, not “ **Root** ”. I guess I’m easily confused. So much for my keen observation of trends and tendencies… I still get confused as to which one’s **mensa** : the bdomino handle or the bmt@yahoo one.

The post-game analysis is really eye-opening. I didn’t put you on a high PP at all, figuring that with **Yeti** calling, and you being BB, you were nearly getting odds to call with Axs or suited connector, but with a high PP, you’d come over us and try to thin one of us out. (Of course, I did raise UTG, so I can see your thinking that I had a bigger PP.) I envy those players who can look over at the river and put you on a specific hand and be right most of the time.

The shove was, in retrospect looking at the hand history, one that I was going, "Why was I so stupid to risk my stack with a low overpair? Reviewing the hand history is usually very sobering for me, not that I had anything to drink last night. For hand #2, I stupidly figured that I’d already paid off the god of variance this game, and while I really didn’t want you to call, a race would break my way and wouldn’t be crippling if I lost.

Looking forward to next week.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/157 "2010-08-27T20:59:04Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> The post-game analysis is really eye-opening. I didn’t put you on a high PP at all, figuring that with **Yeti** calling, and you being BB, you were nearly getting odds to call with Axs or suited connector, but with a high PP, you’d come over us and try to thin one of us out. (Of course, I did raise UTG, so I can see your thinking that I had a bigger PP.) I envy those players who can look over at the river and put you on a specific hand and be right most of the time.

You’ve either got a hell of a memory, or you’re keeping track of the hand history somehow. I know there are various tracking programs; I’ve always kinda wondered what they would reveal about my play.

I don’t remember the exact order of play, but I remember wishing I’d done things differently after the flop. Do you think my error runs deeper than that; should I have gotten more chips in before the flop, too?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/158 "2010-08-27T21:21:53Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> I think I played my pocket jacks perfectly last night. Hit a Jack on the flop, and then the fourth jack hit on the turn.
> 
> For once, I was not one jack-off.

And this sums up my problem. It’s not like I don’t know that I have leaks in my game.

I just try to fix them against the worst hands possible.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/159 "2010-08-27T21:46:50Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> You’ve either got a hell of a memory, or you’re keeping track of the hand history somehow. I know there are various tracking programs; I’ve always kinda wondered what they would reveal about my play.
> 
> I don’t remember the exact order of play, but I remember wishing I’d done things differently after the flop. Do you think my error runs deeper than that; should I have gotten more chips in before the flop, too?

I’m loathe to criticize anyone’s play other than my own: I’m just not that good. The hand history comes from the game’s own software. Since I don’t play for money, I can’t afford stuff like pokertracker or sharkscope. I’d also be really curious about what a tracker would reveal. I do use the statistics tab to let me know when I’m either grossly in too many pots or whether I need to loosen up a bit. As I wrote, re-reading the hand histories in the cold light of day is rather sobering. Lots of “I did what!?”

I have played with guys who could tell you how a hand played out several hours earlier in the session. My memory used to be pretty good, but I’ve never been able to do that, no matter how hard I try to pay attention. They were also the guys who could put you on a hand with a lot of accuracy. I tried to stay out of their pots…

I am trying to get to the point where I am primarily playing thinking about what you have, and developing your impression of what you think I have, and whether you are deceiving my impression of what you have. It’s hard, but much more satisfying and involving than just sitting there playing poker bingo.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suck-my-tar-balls-through-your-vuvuzela-sdmb-poker-q3-2010/544449/160 "2010-08-27T22:02:44Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> And this sums up my problem. It’s not like I don’t know that I have leaks in my game.
> 
> I just try to fix them against the worst hands possible.

**Meeko** , I was trying to set a pretty big trap for you to fall in. You probably lost the minimum with top pair. IIRC, I did not raise pre-flop, which is rare when I have a hand like pocket Jacks. and I only called your bet on the flop.

You could have really fallen in love with your pair of Kings, and busted out. I was hoping that you would step into the trap, but you did well.

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