# Suggest a tabletopm miniature games for begginers.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [June 1, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261 "2018-06-01T15:00:05Z")
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### Author:  [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261/1 "2018-06-01T15:00:05Z")
I’ve been playing Warhammer 40K, on and off, for over 20 years. I like it, it’s mostly a solid game with a good backstory. It’s also flawed. The rules system is complicated, seemingly always in flux and depends on far too many books and supplements. It’s also notoriously difficult and EXPENSIVE for newbies to enter as a serious player. For this and other reasons, my local group of players has been dwindling for years. It’s a ninety minute drive for me to find any kind of regular gaming group and more often than not, I need to bring my own treadhead army plus one or two other armies for other people to use.
I need recommendations for other tabletop miniature wargame systems. I’m placing a special emphasis on easy to learn rule systems that don’t require as many models as a 2,000 point Imperial Guard or Ork Army. I’m interested in finding a good “introductory” tabletop miniature game, repeat playability is not a hugely important issue for me. If you can pick it up quickly, spend a month or two playing several enjoyable games and then move on to more advanced systems then that’s ideal.
Suggestions please?
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### Author:  [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261/2 "2018-06-01T15:05:24Z")
Have you tried [X-Wing miniatures](https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/103885/star-wars-x-wing-miniatures-game) at all? This might fit your bill - it’s not tremendously expensive, it’s easy to learn, and easy to play. It says it’s a two-player game, but we’ve had fun playing in teams as well.
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### Author:  [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261/3 "2018-06-01T15:28:47Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Have you tried [X-Wing miniatures](https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/103885/star-wars-x-wing-miniatures-game) at all? This might fit your bill - it’s not tremendously expensive, it’s easy to learn, and easy to play. It says it’s a two-player game, but we’ve had fun playing in teams as well.
I’ve played a couple games of X-Wing and it really didn’t click with me. This is at least partly due to my dread for all things “STAR WARS”. I used to be heavily into “STAR TREK: ATTACK WING” which has broadly similar game mechanics but now I really can’t stand the sight of it.
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### Author:  [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261/4 "2018-06-01T18:57:37Z")
Might have better luck in the game room.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261/5 "2018-06-01T20:30:49Z")
Indeed. Moving.
And I’ve said before, Warhammer isn’t a tabletop game. It’s a computer game that had the misfortune to be invented before the computers that could run it.
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### Author:  [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261/6 "2018-06-01T20:43:05Z")
Shadespire? Guildball?
(these are games my mini-loving friend is into now – I don’t know a lot about them)
XWing is inspired by Wings of War / Wings of Glory – there is a fantasy version (that also has ground units) but the name escapes me and I don’t know if it is still even being produced
Brian
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### Author:  [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261/7 "2018-06-01T20:46:01Z")
found it D&D - attack wing
> **[Dungeons & Dragons: Attack Wing](https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/155689/dungeons-dragons-attack-wing)**
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> Dungeons & Dragons tactical flight and ground combat pre-painted miniatures game.
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-a-tabletopm-miniature-games-for-begginers/815261/8 "2018-06-02T18:45:09Z")
I’ll suggest Steve Jackson Games’ OGRE, though it’s more of a traditional wargame (with tokens, rather than minis). However, [the current edition of the game](http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/products/ogre6e/) includes 3D cardboard minis of the OGRE tanks, and they have [some plastic minis](http://www.sjgames.com/miniatures/) for the game, as well.