# suggest  agrape variety

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 3, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-agrape-variety/617648 "2012-04-03T00:55:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-agrape-variety/617648/1 "2012-04-03T00:55:05Z")

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I’ve cleared a tree in my yard and have a bit more space to perhaps grow some grapes. I live in zone 5a in southern wisconsin.

I’d like to have seedless eating grapes, but i might consider wine grapes. I bought a few a couple of years ago from a hardware store that were supposed to be seedless, but I was duped. Plus they were smallish. They weren’t much bigger and almost as seedy as the wild grapes we have growing around here.

So, I’m a bit more cautious and thought I’d ask for a more expert opinion.

Can you suggest a grape variety that I should consider and maybe a place I can purchase them from?

Seedless, Sweet and big are preferred (like my women :D) pretty much in that order, though I would consider other varieties.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-agrape-variety/617648/2 "2012-04-03T00:57:32Z")

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[Muscadine grapes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscadine) are the most delicious type of grape I have ever eaten. Their juice is sweet and they are often used in making wine.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-agrape-variety/617648/3 "2012-04-03T01:13:32Z")

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The U of MN has produced many cold-hardy grapes for eating or wine-making. I rather like to eat one of their wine grapes, called Frontenac.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-agrape-variety/617648/4 "2012-04-03T01:28:29Z")

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I don’t know what they are called, but when I was a kid growing up one of my mom’s friends and these tiny little green seedless grapes that grew in tight clusters, were REALLY sweet, soft and gushy, and I could eat those by the thousands. If you can find out what they are, and if they’ll grow in your climate, you MUST get them. They are beyond incredible.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-agrape-variety/617648/5 "2012-04-03T02:03:13Z")

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Himrod grapes are a medium/small seedless green grape, like the Thomsons you find in the grocery store. I have been growing them for about 10 years.

They are sweet golden grapes about the size of a marble. They grow fine in cool climates.

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**Author:** ![araminty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@araminty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/araminty)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-agrape-variety/617648/6 "2012-04-03T02:39:33Z")

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> [@carnut](#):
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> The U of MN has produced many cold-hardy grapes for eating or wine-making. I rather like to eat one of their wine grapes, called Frontenac.

It’s Frontignan or Frontignac, and it’s an ancient French variety, more properly known as Muscat Blanc à Petits Grains. Very nice table or wine grape, delicious sweet summery muscat.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggest-agrape-variety/617648/7 "2012-04-03T02:59:12Z")

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> [@araminty](#):
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> It’s Frontignan or Frontignac, and it’s an ancient French variety, more properly known as Muscat Blanc à Petits Grains. Very nice table or wine grape, delicious sweet summery muscat.

Actually, the spelling is Frontenac. Named not only for it’s heritage but after a region of MN as well. There is also a Frontenac Gris grape, but I have not tasted it.
