# Suggestion: limit posting in the pit for new posters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [September 22, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655 "2019-09-22T18:10:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/21 "2019-09-23T03:55:27Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> The board’s big guiding principle: Don’t be a jerk.
> 
> If a newbie (or old timer) posts only in the pit, but isn’t a jerk, who cares? And if they are a jerk in the pit or elsewhere, let the mods deal with it.

> [@Bone](#):
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> … If this rule were to be put in place, would new posters also be immune from criticism in the Pit as well, since they wouldn’t be able to post there?

> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> The real answer here is for people to internalizing the fact that if someone disagrees with you, even strongly, it doesn’t make that poster a troll.

Quoted for their wonderful truth.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/22 "2019-09-23T04:10:52Z")

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No. Absolutely not, under any circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/23 "2019-09-23T04:13:32Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> No. Absolutely not, under any circumstances.

So you’re saying there’s daylight there? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/24 "2019-09-23T06:16:56Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> The real answer here is for people to internalizing the fact that if someone disagrees with you, even strongly, it doesn’t make that poster a troll.

Do you think this is about me _disagreeing_ with someone? Serious question.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/25 "2019-09-23T06:55:43Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Do you think this is about me _disagreeing_ with someone? Serious question.

Seems that way from the OP.

That, and that somehow low post count users haven’t “earned” the right to “talk back” to high post count users.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/26 "2019-09-23T07:14:27Z")

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I would imagine most of my posts are in the Pit. I’m not a troll, I just tend to vulgarity and its easier to post there without worrying about stepping on any pearl clutching toes.

I strongly disagree with sanctioning people who post exclusively in one forum or another, and that includes the poor bastard who you actually warned/banned for such a crime recently.

Limiting new posters serves nobody, especially when this is clearly about one particular poster anyway. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/27 "2019-09-23T09:36:31Z")

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So, is **Huey Freeman** going to be unbanned anytime soon? Since the big rationale behind \*his \*banning was that he mostly posted in the Pit and targeted invective at other posters:

> [@Huey Freeman is banned](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/huey-freeman-is-banned/828587/1):
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> So, why is he banned now? When we started discussing him in the mod loop in response to the ATMB thread, I took a look at his posting history, and it turns out he hasn’t posted anywhere on the board except for the Pit since October, excepting a couple posts he made to the ATMB thread about him today. And, near as I could tell, 100% of those Pit posts were attacking other posters. As it turns out, we [have a Pit rule that explicitly covers that behavior](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=507985):
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> Three months and change of posting nothing on the board but invective-filled screeds against other posters seems about as clear a violation of that rule as you could ask for.

Or is it only OK if you’re a precious Right Wing snowflake?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/28 "2019-09-23T10:18:31Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Do you think this is about me _disagreeing_ with someone? Serious question.

Yeah, honestly, I do.

You’ve often maintained that we don’t spot or enforce trolls quick enough and, God knows you report posters for being trolls. But by and large other than obvious trolls it seems from my perspective that you mostly consider trolls those people who disagree with you strongly.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/29 "2019-09-23T11:33:44Z")

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The one thing that bothers me about _some_ new posters is when they begin their board activity by starting a couple dozen new threads in just a few days.

Maybe make 'em wait a week after signing up and/or make 'em wait until their post count is up to, say, 20, before they can start threads? (That’s assuming that can be done with the board software, of course: there’s no way the mods could police that, and I wouldn’t ask them to.)

But if new posters want to spend all their time in the Pit, that’s fine with me.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/30 "2019-09-23T16:37:28Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Yeah, honestly, I do.

Okay.

You’re wrong.

You clearly think I’m too quick to call someone a troll. Yet, for some fucking reason, you can’t spot a troll if they spent their first 200 posts doing nothing but calling people assholes, then [literally said they’re here to poke the bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21863382&postcount=10137) and followed it up by calling women “females” and insinuating that someone who assumed that meant bad things must be a woman.

I just don’t get it, man. What does it take? At what point does it click for you guys? Why even have a rule against trolling if enforcing it takes a fucking act of god?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/31 "2019-09-23T16:58:49Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Okay.
> 
> You’re wrong.

Sure doesn’t seem to be wrong from where I’m sitting.

> [@](#):
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> You clearly think I’m too quick to call someone a troll. Yet, for some fucking reason, you can’t spot a troll if they spent their first 200 posts doing nothing but calling people assholes, then [literally said they’re here to poke the bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21863382&postcount=10137) and followed it up by calling women “females” and insinuating that someone who assumed that meant bad things must be a woman.
> 
> I just don’t get it, man. What does it take? At what point does it click for you guys? Why even have a rule against trolling if enforcing it takes a fucking act of god?

Calling people “assholes” in the Pit isn’t trolling. Enjoying posting to the Pit isn’t trolling. Being kind of a dick isn’t trolling. Just generally being right of center isn’t trolling. Not agreeing with you personally, **BPC** , is not trolling.

I think you’re going to have to come to terms with the fact that you simply are not very good at identifying trolls.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/32 "2019-09-23T17:01:32Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I think you’re going to have to come to terms with the fact that you simply are not very good at identifying trolls.

Or is truly so convinced of his correct-ness that the only possible way anyone could disagree with him is because they’re doing it for fun.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/33 "2019-09-23T17:15:33Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Okay.
> 
> You’re wrong.
> 
> You clearly think I’m too quick to call someone a troll. Yet, for some fucking reason, you can’t spot a troll if they spent their first 200 posts doing nothing but calling people assholes, then [literally said they’re here to poke the bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21863382&postcount=10137) and followed it up by calling women “females” and insinuating that someone who assumed that meant bad things must be a woman.
> 
> I just don’t get it, man. What does it take? At what point does it click for you guys? Why even have a rule against trolling if enforcing it takes a fucking act of god?

Wow. You clearly don’t know what “literally” means.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/34 "2019-09-23T17:26:26Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> and followed it up by calling women “females” and insinuating that someone who assumed that meant bad things must be a woman.

Yes, you–I am sure–respectfully call them “women” while you are producing porn Advent calenders of them.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/35 "2019-09-23T18:22:46Z")

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That’s enough right there.

This will not turn into a personal attack on any other poster. That goes for everyone.

I hope that’s clear.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/36 "2019-09-23T18:52:59Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> It strikes me as odd when a poster has 199 posts, and 196 are in the Pit.
> 
> It makes me wonder why they even want to post here.

Cheaper than therapy? 😉

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/37 "2019-09-23T21:15:45Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> Or is truly so convinced of his correct-ness that the only possible way anyone could disagree with him is because they’re doing it for fun.

What part of …

> [@Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-trolls-r-us-thread/755489/10194):
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> I know I won’t be changing any minds. **This is for my own personal amusement.**

…is \*not \*“doing it for fun”?

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/38 "2019-09-23T21:32:21Z")

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**A comment from the Peanut Gallery.**

A few observations, which may or may not have any bearing but what the hey.

1. You are not forced to read any thread anywhere on this board at gunpoint or anything else.
2. Neither are you obligated to make a posting, even if you are called out by name to respond.
3. Hi Opal! Still meme-ing after all these years.
4. If you believe someone is trying to get a rise out of you, not having one in print is winning.
5. The IGNORE function is your friend. Even if no one else is.
6. Not everyone will agree with you always. This does not make them (or you) bad, it just means you disagree. But some of you are just evil. You know who you are.
7. Life is too short and over too soon and full of suffering. Unnecessary suffering should be avoided if you can manage it.
8. Go outside while it’s still nice. You might feel better.
9. Just saying. Don’t you hate people who say “Just saying?”

Jenny  
your humble TubaDiva  
Posting as a general observer and not to be taken as The Law.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/39 "2019-09-23T23:57:47Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Do you think this is about me _disagreeing_ with someone? Serious question.

Yes.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-limit-posting-in-the-pit-for-new-posters/840655/40 "2019-09-24T00:52:11Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> What part of …  
> …is \*not \*“doing it for fun”?

Yep, I’m posting for my own personal amusement. I know I’m not going to be changing any minds, especially ones like these:

> [@Troll Food Omnibus Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/93):
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> Ha ha. You have yet to see me lose my shit, asshole. But you can \*still \*take your pathetic attempt at tone policing and shove it up your prolapsed anus, if you can find space next to your neck.
> 
> Now now, be fair.
> 
> We’ve \*all \*been hoping you’d be banned \*way \*before you showed your misogyny.
> 
> Except **octopus** , apparently, but he’s a microcephalic shitworm, so we don’t expect any better from him.
> 
> The word you want, yet seem incapable of saying, is “woman”, motherfucker.  
> You need to fuck off.

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