# Suggestions for a Classic Rock bracket. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 6, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275 "2008-03-06T02:40:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/21 "2008-03-06T04:01:59Z")
How long do you think you’ll keep each round open for voting? I’ve done the Beatles tourney with 54-hour rounds, but that’s mainly because I did the math, and every 54 hours I knew would be in front of a computer to wrap it up. Also, I was planning on keeping the voting open longer in the later rounds-- like 72 hours. Do people think two+ days is too long? Not long enough? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/22 "2008-03-06T04:06:42Z")
Perusing through my record collection, I came upon a few deserving names that have yet to be mentioned (assuming I’ve read the thread carefully up to this point) Black Sabbath Boston Chicago George Thorogood and the Destroyers Nirvana - they’ve been popping up on our local ‘Classic Rock’ station quite a bit in the past few months Paul McCartney (& Wings) - I think his ‘solo’ catalog merits his inclusion here in addition to as a member of the Beatles Red Hot Chili Peppers - like Nirvana, a ‘new’ Classic Rock band… Santana Steely Dan Stevie Ray Vaughan Talking Heads The Clash The Pretenders Yes Personally, I would get rid of Guns ‘n’ Roses, Steppenwolf, and the Scorpions, as I don’t think any of them has a big enough catalog to merit inclusion. By my count, these additions and subtractions would bring the total to 52 bands…just a few more needed to fill out the bracket… ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/23 "2008-03-06T04:06:47Z")
I’ll probably do 2 days for the first couple of rounds, then 3 or 4 for the later rounds, as the choices get tougher. I like to see people’s opinions. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/24 "2008-03-06T04:12:01Z")
I’d not want to play (I think I’m done with long-term games on the Dope), but would my beloved Alice Cooper make the cut? Or would that be considered too niche’-ish? Yanno, in the context of glam or metal or shock. Regardless, I still hold that early AC is the epitome of classic. In my rabidly humble opinion. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/25 "2008-03-06T04:16:51Z")
How could you have ZZ Top ranked below Tom Petty? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/26 "2008-03-06T04:29:18Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] How could you have ZZ Top ranked below Tom Petty? [/QUOTE] Because Tom Petty is better than ZZ Top? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/27 "2008-03-06T04:34:20Z")
[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton] Perusing through my record collection, I came upon a few deserving names that have yet to be mentioned (assuming I’ve read the thread carefully up to this point) Black Sabbath Boston Chicago George Thorogood and the Destroyers Nirvana - they’ve been popping up on our local ‘Classic Rock’ station quite a bit in the past few months Paul McCartney (& Wings) - I think his ‘solo’ catalog merits his inclusion here in addition to as a member of the Beatles Red Hot Chili Peppers - like Nirvana, a ‘new’ Classic Rock band… Santana Steely Dan Stevie Ray Vaughan Talking Heads The Clash The Pretenders Yes Personally, I would get rid of Guns ‘n’ Roses, Steppenwolf, and the Scorpions, as I don’t think any of them has a big enough catalog to merit inclusion. By my count, these additions and subtractions would bring the total to 52 bands…just a few more needed to fill out the bracket… [/QUOTE] I’m pretty sure I included Wings and Boston in my '‘Field of 32’. Nirvana and RHCP aren’t Classic Rock, in my opinion. The Clash, Talking Heads, Santana The Pretenders, and Sabbath are all fringe sorts of bands… squint hard at them, and they might count, but they’re important for their deviations from the genre, not their contributions. I just don’t like Chicago or Steely Dan… But I got no reason not to include George Thorogood, other than my strong dislike of Delaware. The man rocked hard. Perhaps a field of 64 _is_ required. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/28 "2008-03-06T04:46:23Z")
[QUOTE=Diomedes] Because Tom Petty is better than ZZ Top? [/QUOTE] Good one. No, seriously - how? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/29 "2008-03-06T04:59:36Z")
Other suggestions: Bob Dylan Janis Joplin The Cars KISS Electric Light Orchestra Fleetwood Mac Cream Grateful Dead Mamas and the Papas ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/30 "2008-03-06T05:13:03Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] Good one. No, seriously - how? [/QUOTE] It’s a question of inspiration versus chops. Billy Gibbons, no question, is an amazing guitar player, far better than Tom Petty or anyone he played with (outside of the Travelling Wilburys). Petty, however, had more great singles and more great albums. The best album either of the two released was Petty’s Full Moon Fever. But ZZ Top writes your standard white boy electric blues songs, with the occasional disco sound tossed in. Petty’s music is filled with riffs that get stuck in your head, and the content is practically the definition of the complex theme rolled into a simple delivery that makes rock good. Out of the Great American Songwriters, Petty rocks the hardest. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/31 "2008-03-06T05:15:14Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Lendervedder] Other suggestions: Electric Light Orchestra Mamas and the Papas [/QUOTE] I think of M&P as more of a folk act than a rock act. YMMV. And would you take ELO above any of the other acts on your list? Or any of the other acts mentioned on this page? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/32 "2008-03-06T05:30:43Z")
[QUOTE=Diomedes] I think of M&P as more of a folk act than a rock act. YMMV. And would you take ELO above any of the other acts on your list? Or any of the other acts mentioned on this page? [/QUOTE] Here’s how I would rate my list: 1. Bob Dylan 2. Janis Joplin 3. The Cars 4. KISS 5. Electric Light Orchestra 6. Fleetwood Mac 7. Cream 8. Grateful Dead 9. Mamas and the Papas I’ve got Dylan so low because I think he’s more folksy too, but I think both he and the M&Ps would fit into a classic rock tourney just fine. And I jockeyed ELO and FMac back and forth between the 3 and 4 slots; I like ELO better, but I suspect FMac has the more impressive catalog. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/33 "2008-03-06T05:41:46Z")
Boston! Journey! On a look back - I see they’ve been mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![DfrntBreign](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@DfrntBreign](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DfrntBreign)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/34 "2008-03-06T11:10:44Z")
I was going to post only to say “they are spelled Jimi Hendrix and Lynyrd Skynyrd”, but then I noticed you’ve missed some. In no particular order Traffic Frank Zappa Emerson, Lake and Palmer Jeff Beck Deep Purple Little Feat Robin Trower (with or w/o Procul Harum) Uriah Heep Kansas Doobie Brothers Marshall Tucker Band Peter Frampton Heart Foghat Ted Nugent Supertramp Thin Lizzy Edgar Winter Johnny Winter It’s your game, so your criteria, but back when these (listed) were current artists, the Police, Talking Heads, Clash and the Pretenders were all considered new wave and/or punk bands. Even Van Halen and (moreso) G&R were kinda late to the party. (I’m not saying they shouldn’t be included, I’m just sayin…) And the Dave Clark 5? Really? ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/35 "2008-03-06T13:16:18Z")
have the women of rock been properly represented? Pat Benetar Joan Jett & the Blackhearts Janis Joplin 10,000 Maniacs Heart Patty Smith I don’t know how they’ll fit in, but they need to be considered ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/36 "2008-03-06T13:48:27Z")
Dagnabbit, it’s gonna be hard winnowing it down to 64. Keep the ideas coming however, and I’m fully prepared to be excoriated for my seeding choices. (In fact, I expect that will be part of the fun. I liked the how can TP&tH be above ZZ Top argument). ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/37 "2008-03-06T13:49:58Z")
The list must have Rush. Some others that may have not yet been mentioned: Deep Purple Rainbow Traffic The Hollies Styx The Cars Steelers Wheel The Steve Miller Band And, I think it should start with 64 bands, just to make sure all the good bands that people have listed at least make an appearance. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/38 "2008-03-06T13:51:11Z")
[QUOTE=Wargamer] Dagnabbit, it’s gonna be hard winnowing it down to 64. Keep the ideas coming however, and I’m fully prepared to be excoriated for my seeding choices. (In fact, I expect that will be part of the fun. I liked the how can TP&tH be above ZZ Top argument). [/QUOTE] I think a random seeding process (at least after the initial #1 seeds) would be really cool. That would allow for some upsets and cinderella bands perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/39 "2008-03-06T13:54:15Z")
I have a 64 team bracket completed and ready to be posted. Was going post on Wednesday, but didn’t quite have the time to post it. But since I also have a 64 song bracket for The Rolling Stones ready, I will defer to **Wargamer**. My #1 seeds would have been: The Beatles The Rolling Stones Led Zeppilin and the fourth seed: a lot of good candidates- should I pick an American group? The Who ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/40 "2008-03-06T14:00:54Z")
[QUOTE=5 time champ] I have a 64 team bracket completed and ready to be posted. Was going post on Wednesday, but didn’t quite have the time to post it. But since I also have a 64 song bracket for The Rolling Stones ready, I will defer to **Wargamer**. My #1 seeds would have been: The Beatles The Rolling Stones Led Zeppilin and the fourth seed: a lot of good candidates- should I pick an American group? The Who [/QUOTE] No, you should pick a Canadian group. 🙂 But as far as popularity goes, yeah, those would be my #1 seeds as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275.md?page=3)