# Suggestions for a Classic Rock bracket. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 6, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275 "2008-03-06T02:40:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/41 "2008-03-06T14:08:23Z")
[QUOTE=Justin Credible] I think a random seeding process (at least after the initial #1 seeds) would be really cool. That would allow for some upsets and cinderella bands perhaps. [/QUOTE] For the Beatles tourney, I kept my seeding a secret, but really made the seeds based on my opinions. That did allow for some upsets, and those “upsets” apparently upset some people, which was nice. 🙂 It got people talking. **Wargamer** , I’d say since you’re setting this up, you can let your opinion really guide the seeding. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/42 "2008-03-06T14:23:27Z")
I don’t think I saw Creedence mentioned… ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/43 "2008-03-06T14:31:30Z")
I was looking at the bracket last night, and I said to myself, ‘How in the name of all that is Holy and Good are those guys a #15?’ Well, actually I didn’t say anything, but that was how I felt. So I had to move Jefferson Airplane up a bit. But damn, the Airplane a #15? I think that is indicative of how tough it’s gonna be to seed this thing. ---
**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/44 "2008-03-06T14:37:06Z")
[QUOTE=Diomedes] Region 1: 1. The Beatles 2. Bob Dylan 3. The Eagles 4. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers 5. ZZ Top 6. Blue Oyster Cult 7. Journey 8. Rush [/QUOTE] I like your breakdowns **Diomedes** , but Rush has to be a higher seed in this bracket. I’d put them 6 and move down BOC & Journey. Rush would be a #1 seed in my tourney. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/45 "2008-03-06T14:41:09Z")
[QUOTE=Diomedes] It’s a question of inspiration versus chops. Billy Gibbons, no question, is an amazing guitar player, far better than Tom Petty or anyone he played with (outside of the Travelling Wilburys). Petty, however, had more great singles and more great albums. The best album either of the two released was Petty’s Full Moon Fever. But ZZ Top writes your standard white boy electric blues songs, with the occasional disco sound tossed in. Petty’s music is filled with riffs that get stuck in your head, and the content is practically the definition of the complex theme rolled into a simple delivery that makes rock good. Out of the Great American Songwriters, Petty rocks the hardest. [/QUOTE] Well, I see your point then. IMHO, though, long after Petty’s been forgotten, Billy Gibbons’ guitar work will _still_ be getting ripped off. You can hear ZZ Top in so much modern music, but I don’t hear Tom Petty the same way. Notice that I won’t go around saying that ZZ Top’s lyrics were great or awesome or even good - the musical arrangements only. My top ten goes like this, I think - assuming we’re defining “classic rock” as “stuff that is now classic, and also rock”, rather than the classic-rock radio standards: 1. Led Zeppelin 2. Fleetwood Mac 3. Queen 4. The Who 5. Depeche Mode 6. Faith No More (yes, really - they did more to define modern rock than any bands of their era, regardless of their actual record sales… same goes for DM above) 7. The Rolling Stones 8. The Clash 9. The Scorpions (if you were a guitarist born around 1980 and you paid attention, you wanted to be able to play Michael Schenker’s riffs) 10. Guns and Roses If I were to do a bracket based roughly on genre (rather than era) it’d go something like this: Metal 1. The Scorpions 2. Guns and Roses 3. Black Sabbath 4. Metallica 5. Queensryche (I know, everyone will laugh at this) Electronic/“Bands that have a keyboard player” 1. Depeche Mode 2. Faith No More 3. Deep Purple 4. Journey Classic Rock 1. Led Zeppelin 2. Fleetwood Mac 3. Queen 4. The Who Punk/Alternative 1. The Clash 2. Nirvana 3. The Damned 4. Iggy Pop ETA: There’s a #5 in the Metal region because… um… Queensryche won a play-in game against Bethune-Cookman College. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/46 "2008-03-06T14:44:41Z")
Others notably missing (granted they probably sit lower on the seeds): Bob Seeger Metallica Black Crowes Iron Maiden Yardbirds Queensryche (the original Seattle band) The Kinks Bad Company Sex Pistols Judas Priest Ramones Ozzy Osbourne (Sabbath was mentioned, but Ozzy had a significant career after Sabbath) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/47 "2008-03-06T15:55:05Z")
Pink Floyd Aerosmith Rush The Kinks Jethro Tull The Doors Deep Purple Creedence Clearwater Revival Jimi Hendrix ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/48 "2008-03-06T16:59:04Z")
Here’s what I had. #1 Seed in first row, #2 in bottom row etc like brackets S Beatles vs Boston U2 vs Bad Company Emerson Lake & Palmer vs The Byrds Eagles vs Beach Boys The Doors vs Steppenwolf Elton John vs Steve Miller Band John Mellencamp vs Journey Bob Seger vs Grateful Dead D The Who vs Joe Cocker Cream vs Steely Dan Tom Petty vs Heart Bruce Springsteen vs ZZ Top Doobie Brothers vs Bob Dylan Billy Joel vs Traffic Styx vs Allman Brothers CSN & Y vs REO Speedwagon M Led Zepplin vs Jethro Tull The Police vs Fleetwood Mac Lynyrd Skynyrd vs Charlie Daniels Band Janis Joplin vs Genesis Chicago vs Little River Band Moody Blues vs Rush Cars vs Kansas Rod Stewart vs Yes B Rolling Stones vs BTO CCR vs Def Leppard Aerosmith vs Guess Who Santana vs Hendrix Queen vs Jefferson Airplane Eric Clapton vs .38 Special Supertramp vs Foreigner Pink Floyd vs Alice Cooper ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/49 "2008-03-06T17:13:37Z")
[QUOTE=5 time champ] Here’s what I had. #1 Seed in first row, #2 in bottom row etc like brackets \ [/QUOTE] and again, none of the women of rock are listed. How can you ignore Janis’ influence? or Joan Jett and Patti Smith as contenders in the hard rock arena? or Heart or The Prentenders or Pat Benetar? Crickies, fellas, honestly! ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/50 "2008-03-06T17:46:46Z")
Janis Joplin vs Genesis is in there. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/51 "2008-03-06T18:20:10Z")
ok - I rescind - I also see Heart on his list. ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/52 "2008-03-06T21:14:58Z")
Never mind ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/53 "2008-03-07T01:10:27Z")
**Wargamer** , when do you plan to post your ‘final’ bracket? I think we’ve listed well over 64 bands now, and we could all probably spend the next several weeks arguing about seedings and brackets and who should be ‘on the bubble’… I’ll defer to whomever you think should be included in the official list. and then complain bitterly about it later 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/54 "2008-03-07T02:34:01Z")
Well, I don’t want to step on **Happy L** ’s toes by running this the same time as his Beatles bracket, plus I think the Mods like to have just one type of game going at a time. So, once that is done, I’ll post mine ASAP. Plus, I think I’ve hit on a take that will shock the Board. More later, but there will be a surprise among the Number 1 seeds… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/55 "2008-03-07T04:17:22Z")
What . . . the Monkees? ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/56 "2008-03-07T14:26:33Z")
You’ll just have to wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/57 "2008-04-24T06:16:09Z")
::kicks zombifying thread:: You gonna do this one, Wargamer? I’ve been looking forward to it! ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/58 "2008-04-24T23:29:43Z")
Me too! Enough of the individual band madness… What’s next, Flock of Seagulls Madness? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-a-classic-rock-bracket/440275/59 "2008-04-24T23:38:15Z")
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