# Suggestions for new Buffy demons/Star Trek aliens

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-new-buffy-demons-star-trek-aliens/89328>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 24, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-new-buffy-demons-star-trek-aliens/89328 "2001-10-24T16:24:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-new-buffy-demons-star-trek-aliens/89328/21 "2001-10-26T21:54:58Z")

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I still say that Slayer plus ten vampires with automatic weapons equals dead Slayer.

Picture it. Buffy is hunting. She enters a deserted alley. At the far end of the alley five vampires appear. The tiniest of smiles flickers across Buffy’s lips as she prepares to fight. Suddenly she hears a noise behind her. She looks over her shoulder to see another five vampires at the other end of the alley. The smile fades, but she still knows she can prevail. Until each vampire raises his machine gun and pulls the trigger.

I’m sorry, I don’t care how fast and powerful Slayers are, they are not going to be able to dodge a thousand bullets a minute. Yes, the vampires are going to cut themselves up at the same time, but a) they’ll heal and b) we’ve seen vampires any number of times go into fanatic mode and be willing to sacrifice themselves.

Of course vampires won’t start ganging up with automatic weapons because that would rather shorten the life expectancy of the show. “I am Buffy, the Vampire Slay-” rat-a-tat-tat. “I am Phyllis, the Vampi-” rat-a-tat-tat. “I am Millicent the-” rat-a-tat-tat. And so on.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-new-buffy-demons-star-trek-aliens/89328/22 "2001-10-27T03:19:46Z")

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There is still nothing like an enlarged real-life insect in terms of scaring humans. Just magnify an uncommon insect about 30000 times, do a little special effects to blend it in with the scenery, and there you go. In a weird way, film stock of long ago might have been slightly better than the film stock of today in terms of blending enlarged or shortened people or animals with the scenery. But then I might be comparing yesterday’s masterworks with today’s mediocrity.

Oh, BTW, you forgot the Willow factor concerning fighting vampires with machine guns.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-new-buffy-demons-star-trek-aliens/89328/23 "2001-10-27T03:35:39Z")

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What exactly is “the Willow factor” in fighting vampires with machine guns? And who said anything about Willow even being there?

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestions-for-new-buffy-demons-star-trek-aliens/89328/24 "2001-10-27T05:32:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\ ***Kyla** : Darla was not killed in the pilot. She was killed in episode seven (entitled “Angel”), the one where she finds out that Angel is a vampire. Here’s a [link](http://www.buffyguide.com/episodes/angel.shtml) to a synopsis of the episode. Scroll down to the “Body Count” section. \*\*

Ack, you’re right. This is what I get for posting at midnight.

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