# Suicide by Text girl convicted. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 17, 2017, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166 "2017-06-17T05:14:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Kovitlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/2bfe46/32.png) [@Kovitlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kovitlac)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/261 "2020-01-23T22:25:39Z")
She should have gotten so much more time. I hope she never, ever gets peace. Not after what she’s done. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/262 "2020-01-24T00:07:22Z")
> [@Kovitlac](#): > > She should have gotten so much more time. I hope she never, ever gets peace. Not after what she’s done. So, if it were up to you, would you prefer she: A) Come to see the error of her ways and manage to live with what she’s done even as she continues to feel deep regret. B) Come to see the error of her ways, be unable to live with what’s she’s done, and so kill herself. C) Not come to see the error of her ways and manage to live with all the “totally underserved” (in her mind) scorn. D) Not come to see the error of her ways, find the scorn, “totally undeserved” though it may be (in her mind), unbearable, and so kill herself. ? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/263 "2020-01-24T18:27:45Z")
> [@Kovitlac](#): > > That isn’t what she did, though. She systemically harassed and bullied him into finally doing it. And apparently, when he wanted to stop part-way through, she told him to stay in the car. Yes. And he had no choice but to listen to a voice on the phone telling him to stay in the car :rolleyes::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/264 "2020-01-24T18:52:58Z")
And because of that horseshit case, you get this one: > **[Woman charged in boyfriend's suicide pleads not guilty](https://apnews.com/9cace9f52fef47f398b5e1e9970c656e)** > > BOSTON (AP) — A former Boston College student pleaded not guilty Friday in her first court appearance on charges that she encouraged her boyfriend to take his own life in what prosecutors described as a toxic and abusive relationship... As I said before, she is a terrible person, but to make that a criminal matter is ridiculous. She did not cause his death in any meaningful sense of the word. Now, there are going to be prosecutions if you are mean to someone on Facebook. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/265 "2020-01-24T19:04:23Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > And because of that horseshit case, you get this one: > > [Woman charged in boyfriend's suicide pleads not guilty | AP News](https://apnews.com/9cace9f52fef47f398b5e1e9970c656e) > > As I said before, she is a terrible person, but to make that a criminal matter is ridiculous. She did not cause his death in any meaningful sense of the word. > > Now, there are going to be prosecutions if you are mean to someone on Facebook. I completely disagree. These women werent just mean, they actively encouraged a sick man to kill himself. Of course its a criminal matter. I say prosecute anyone who engages in this sort of malicious behavior to the fullest extent of the law as a warning to other trolls. Its yelling fire in a burning theater for the 21st century. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/266 "2020-01-24T19:15:47Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I completely disagree. These women werent just mean, they actively encouraged a sick man to kill himself. Of course its a criminal matter. I say prosecute anyone who engages in this sort of malicious behavior to the fullest extent of the law as a warning to other trolls. Its yelling fire in a burning theater for the 21st century. I would hope if a theater is burning someone would yell fire. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/267 "2020-01-24T20:02:45Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > And because of that horseshit case, you get this one: > > [Woman charged in boyfriend's suicide pleads not guilty | AP News](https://apnews.com/9cace9f52fef47f398b5e1e9970c656e) > > As I said before, she is a terrible person, but to make that a criminal matter is ridiculous. She did not cause his death in any meaningful sense of the word. > > Now, there are going to be prosecutions if you are mean to someone on Facebook. You’re apparently unfamiliar with the psychology of abusive relationships and why victims are more susceptible to manipulation than they would have been before the relationship. [Assistant prosecutor Caitlin Grasso] > [@](#): > > also detailed how You, who withdrew from the university over the summer, forced Urtula to block his friends on social media and regularly monitored his location through his smartphone’s GPS. Prosecutors and judges understand how this works better than you apparently do. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/268 "2020-01-24T20:10:07Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > You’re apparently unfamiliar with the psychology of abusive relationships and why victims are more susceptible to manipulation than they would have been before the relationship. > > [Assistant prosecutor Caitlin Grasso] > > Prosecutors and judges understand how this works better than you apparently do. Society, and especially free speech, cannot function if we treat everyone as if they are borderline suicidal. Making another person block Facebook contacts and spying on their phone? Hell, several of my ex-girlfriends would be in prison. Or they would only go to prison if I make the choice to kill myself. That’s a pretty rootless standard for a felony conviction. In a free country, people are allowed to be assholes. They are allowed to be mean, nasty, people. What’s next? Someone Pits me here and are criminally liable because I’m unstable? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/269 "2020-01-24T20:15:12Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > In a free country, people are allowed to be assholes. They are allowed to be mean, nasty, people. What’s next? Someone Pits me here and are criminally liable because I’m unstable? That is what is strange about these idiotic cyber bullying stories. Many people here are so against it, but just head right over into the Pit and see the thousands of posts of “cyber bullying” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/270 "2020-01-24T20:24:41Z")
I’ve always liked the Depraved Indifference charge. It’s ok to be depraved, fine to be indifferent, but you don’t wanna combine the two. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/271 "2020-01-24T21:00:27Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I would hope if a theater is burning someone would yell fire. I screwed that one up. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/272 "2020-01-24T21:04:24Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > That is what is strange about these idiotic cyber bullying stories. Many people here are so against it, but just head right over into the Pit and see the thousands of posts of “cyber bullying” :rolleyes: But how would things go with the Mods if someone was pushing a vulnerable and sick individual to commit suicide? One difference between cyberbullying between strangers and between people who know each other is that reallife friends are much more likely to know the vulnerabilities of each other. A sociopathic type person is much more dangerous in the later situation. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/273 "2020-01-25T16:11:08Z")
I didn’t know anything about this story other than the headlines and so assumed she had been bullying him but reading some of the the messages that wasn’t the case. Seems she genuinely cared for the guy somehow but pushing him so hard to kill himself is all kinds of fucked up. Whatever the reason, for him to be free from suffering in the kindest interpretation. Or get “scared” and seek help (stupid to the nth degree). Clearly two people not in the best of places mentally. I really don’t know how to feel about the criminal conviction. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166/274 "2020-01-25T16:53:57Z")
I would have understood (not necessarily agreed) if she had said something like “if you want to end your life that is your choice, I won’t support it however and I’m here if you need me”. But egging him on like that, that shit is just insane. However it was still his choice to end his life. She never said that he was a worthless sad sack unfit to breathe (which would qualify as bullying, probably criminal, if repeated over time on a vulnerable person). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-by-text-girl-convicted/789166.md?page=13)