# Suicide with determination

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 13, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996 "2007-09-13T01:24:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/1 "2007-09-13T01:24:19Z")

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No pills, razor blades, guns or such for this guy. First he heads off to the hardware store, buys the parts, and [builds a guillotine](http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070912/UPDATE/709120468/1003/METRO), then gives it a personal test. It worked. Dayum.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/2 "2007-09-13T01:31:05Z")

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All he had to do is walk into the right Texas bar and yell “Go, Horns!”

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/3 "2007-09-13T01:43:23Z")

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Actually I think go Sooners or Agies suck would work at least as well.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/4 "2007-09-13T02:52:55Z")

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Talk about losing your head.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/5 "2007-09-13T03:01:44Z")

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Maybe he just really wanted to know if Cecil was [right.](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_221a.html)

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/6 "2007-09-13T03:39:29Z")

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This probably just shows how stupid most suicides are, while also illustrating why everyone should have access to a good and thorough method to do it. Bravo to this fellow. He probably was Dope material, going and researching the best and most certain method, and probably ran test cases with a turkey breast or something I’ll bet. Though I feel a bit sorry that he had to do that for himself. That would be a rather grim job.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/7 "2007-09-13T03:47:48Z")

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IIRC, there are a couple, possibly credible stories indicating consciousness may remain for some time after decapitation. They supposedly involved people saying they would blink, and then the severed head actually blinked. This guy wasted a valuable scientific opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/8 "2007-09-13T04:03:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Boyo Jim]  
IIRC, there are a couple, possibly credible stories indicating consciousness may remain for some time after decapitation. They supposedly involved people saying they would blink, and then the severed head actually blinked. This guy wasted a valuable scientific opportunity.  
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[The master speaks](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_262.html)

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/9 "2007-09-13T04:10:03Z")

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Am I on everybody’s ignore list?  
Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/10 "2007-09-13T04:24:17Z")

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I’ve always said that if something is worth doing, it’s worth doing right.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/11 "2007-09-13T04:28:47Z")

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The most determined suicide I ever heard of was the guy who killed himself by drilling six holes in his head with a portable electric drill. At the time I read it I was thinking most people would have given up after drilling three or four holes and deciding to just take a bunch of sleeping pills.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_C](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Captain\_C](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_C)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/12 "2007-09-13T04:36:12Z")

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That’s no way to get ahead in life.

what?

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/13 "2007-09-13T04:38:32Z")

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In Ellis’ _Social History of the Machine Gun_ he recounts the British soldier who served on the Frontier (of what is now Afghanistan). He had access to a wooden training model of a Vickers Gun.

Over a period of months he carved out the interior and made all the internal parts. It was rugged enough for one shot. Which was all he was after anyway.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/14 "2007-09-13T04:49:37Z")

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See? that’s what happens when you shop at Home Despot.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/15 "2007-09-13T04:51:21Z")

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The guy was able to build a _working guillotine_. He sounds like he was kinda cool.

And now I wish I knew more about him. ☹

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/16 "2007-09-13T04:53:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
The most determined suicide I ever heard of was the guy who killed himself by drilling six holes in his head with a portable electric drill. At the time I read it I was thinking most people would have given up after drilling three or four holes and deciding to just take a bunch of sleeping pills.  
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Perhaps he was concerned about the potential for addiction.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/17 "2007-09-13T05:08:26Z")

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It’s kind of curious that we haven’t heard from **Zebra** in this thread.

😛

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/18 "2007-09-13T05:12:51Z")

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How to lose 5(?) pounds of ugly fat.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/19 "2007-09-13T05:26:22Z")

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Seems like Cecil would have had something to say about this.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suicide-with-determination/418996/20 "2007-09-13T05:49:47Z")

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he should have taken it even further by attaching a tag to his head that said, “If found, please return to…”

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