# Summer movie - Jodi Foster & Mel Gibson **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 3, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090 "2011-04-03T23:23:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/1 "2011-04-03T23:23:49Z")
I like Jodi Foster. I used to like Mel Gibson. They have a movie coming out this summer. Should I let my dislike of Mel’s actions prevent me from going? How much will he get out of my ticket? I figure he has already been paid his salary, so my going or not going won’t affect that, but if he is also getting a percentage, I hate to add to it. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/2 "2011-04-03T23:26:43Z")
Mel Gibson’s reprehensible personal views haven’t changed the quality of his acting. If you think the movie will be good, then go ahead and see it. ---
**Author:** ![xoferew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e9a140/32.png) [@xoferew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xoferew)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/3 "2011-04-03T23:36:17Z")
Is this the one with the beaver puppet? It sounds awful, personally. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/4 "2011-04-03T23:46:06Z")
It’s not Mel Gibson I object to so much as [the horrible hate spewing puppet in the movie](http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b1b4228517/the-beaver-recut). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/5 "2011-04-04T01:23:37Z")
OK, having seen that trailer, I’m now a bit puzzled by the OP’s question. Presumably, what’s turned him off to Gibson is the hateful bile he’s been spewing. And yet, he’s interested in seeing a movie full of spewn hateful bile, and is only considering not doing so because it has Gibson in it. Que? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/6 "2011-04-04T01:25:30Z")
I’m looking forward to it. 1. It’s Jodie Foster, who directed Little Man Tate. That should be self-explanatory unless people haven’t seen Little Man Tate, in which case they should see Little Man Tate. 2. It’s getting good reviews from [Rotten Tomatoes](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_beaver_2010/) (though most reviews won’t be added until the release date) 3. It’s getting good reviews on the [IMDB reviews page](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321860/usercomments) 4. It caused a [sensation at SXSW](http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/beaver-debuts-sxsw-can-it-save-mel-gibsons-career-25567), where everyone was gunning to shoot it down and probably wanted to compete for the snarkiest and nastiest review, but most were surprised that they actually liked it, and last but not least, 5. It’s a quirky black comedy with a serious undertow (dealing with depression), and I do love quirky black comedies with serious undertows. Edit to add 1. Jennifer Lawrence is in it! It’s such a bizarre premise that it probably would have made very little at the box office, even if Gibson were pure as snow. Jodie Foster movies as director are so individualistic that they could never become blockbusters. People will blame Gibson but it won’t be his fault. It’ll be the fault of people who claim that Hollywood is out of ideas and repetitive and unoriginal, but who, when a movie with new and original ideas come around, they either don’t go see it or they bitch about how odd and different it was, hurts their heads man, give them something more familiar to wrap their heads around for christ’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/7 "2011-04-04T01:34:17Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, having seen that trailer, I’m now a bit puzzled by the OP’s question. Presumably, what’s turned him off to Gibson is the hateful bile he’s been spewing. And yet, he’s interested in seeing a movie full of spewn hateful bile, and is only considering not doing so because it has Gibson in it. Que? I hope I’m not being whooshed here, but that trailer is fake. Here’s the real trailer: [The Beaver - The Beaver: Trailer #1 | IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3568211993/) ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/8 "2011-04-04T01:49:57Z")
No if you don’t like Gibson, you should wait and download it illegally on line. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/9 "2011-04-04T02:19:51Z")
I don’t know much about the story - just who is in it. From the way it has been described here, I’m guessing I will have an easy decision. A hate - filled puppet does not sound like part of an enjoyable summer movie. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/10 "2011-04-04T02:21:05Z")
> [@Pai325](#): > > I don’t know much about the story - just who is in it. From the way it has been described here, I’m guessing I will have an easy decision. A hate - filled puppet does not sound like part of an enjoyable summer movie. Not a hate filled puppet. Fake trailer. Anyway, why did you want to see the movie in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/11 "2011-04-04T02:21:16Z")
The vast majority of the time I am able to overlook any personal issues I might have with the artist or their private behavior and judge the art solely on it’s own merits, but for some reason, (most likely because he’s already had so many second chances, yet still insists on showing off his feces-encrusted asshole to the world over and over again) I can’t overlook the kind of person that Mel Gibson obviously is, and probably always will be. Simply put, Mel Gibson is a hateful, bigoted, rage-filled, entitled hypocrite, who actually has the nerve to hold himself up as a shining example of a good, if imperfect, righteous Christian man, when he is in fact the epitome of a fraud and a charlatan. Fuck him… (also, Jodie Foster has an obvious financial interest in trying to help salvage Gibson’s public image for the sake of her film. When his next rant features him spouting hate-filled invective about raping bull dykes, lesbian torture porn and the shameful, eternal sinn of same-sex parenting, I have a feeling she won’t be telling Variety or the Hollywood Reporter about what a good-hearted, if misunderstood guy Mel Gibson really is) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/12 "2011-04-04T02:36:59Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > (also, Jodie Foster has an obvious financial interest in trying to help salvage Gibson’s public image for the sake of her film.) Assuming that this film hasn’t been sitting in the editing room for the last 10 years, I’m fairly bewildered that Foster would sign Gibson at all. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/13 "2011-04-04T04:43:41Z")
Quoth **enalzi** : > [@](#): > > I hope I’m not being whooshed here, but that trailer is fake. Here’s the real trailer: [The Beaver - The Beaver: Trailer #1 | IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3568211993/) No, apparently I’m the whooshed one-- I guess that would explain the “remixed” label on that other trailer. With the real trailer, it just looks surreal, and I can see how it might be appealing to some. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/14 "2011-04-04T04:58:25Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > It’s not Mel Gibson I object to so much as [the horrible hate spewing puppet in the movie](http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b1b4228517/the-beaver-recut). Maybe Mel’s totally innocent- it was that puppet all along. Kind of like Son of Sam but with 100% more beaver puppet. ---
**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/15 "2011-04-04T06:56:04Z")
> [@Pai325](#): > > I figure he has already been paid his salary, so my going or not going won’t affect that, but if he is also getting a percentage, I hate to add to it. What a rebel. You think Mel Gibson gives a shit about the fraction of a dollar you won’t give to him ? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Batman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@The\_Batman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Batman)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/16 "2011-04-04T07:51:18Z")
More like fractions of a penny. Jodie Foster seems like a nice enough person. Why don’t you go watch it thinking that you’re paying her instead of Gibson? You know, judging movies based on the personal conduct of the people involved gets kind of pointless when you think too much about it. Do you really think Mel Gibson was the only bigot to work in that movie? Or the only angry drunkard? Maybe the Grip Boy or several extras are pedophiles. You’ll be paying them too if you go. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/17 "2011-04-04T07:57:55Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Assuming that this film hasn’t been sitting in the editing room for the last 10 years, I’m fairly bewildered that Foster would sign Gibson at all. They finished filming in November 2009, at which time Mel’s most recent previous bit of bad behavior was 2006’s Operation Sugar Tits. By the time he was hired for this new film, the Jewish Community had had 3 years to prove that they didn’t start all wars. The issue was left unresolved. This new film was set for a summer 2010 release, but was held to avoid competition with Operation Pack of Niggers. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/18 "2011-04-16T03:55:05Z")
Looks like Jodie Foster just recently sat for an interview and wanted to go on the record as saying that good ol’ Mel Gibson is one of the “most decent” and “the most beloved” actors in all of Hollywood; apparently Mel is truly a Victim Of Circumstance, a misunderstood Saint Among The Living, although admittedly a Saint with a bit of a taste for belting around the occasional Russian whore with his bare fists, as well as an unquenchable passion for collecting autographed first-edition copies of “Mein Kampf” I say God Bless Jodie Foster for having the courage to stand up to the Liberal Elite and the politically correct run amok… ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/19 "2011-04-16T07:46:48Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > I say God Bless Jodie Foster for having the courage to stand up to the Liberal Elite and the politically correct run amok… Jodie Foster and Mel Gibson have been friends for twenty years. So if she says that he’s OK, I’m not going to think it’s some kind of publicity thing to help her movie. I’m going to assume she honestly believes it. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090/20 "2011-04-16T19:17:03Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Jodie Foster and Mel Gibson have been friends for twenty years. So if she says that he’s OK, I’m not going to think it’s some kind of publicity thing to help her movie. I’m going to assume she honestly believes it. Yes, I am sure the tens of millions of dollars that Jodie Foster stands to lose if “The Beaver” flops never even entered her mind… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-movie-jodi-foster-mel-gibson/577090.md?page=2)