# Summer Olympics 2021 ongoing discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** olympic-sports-track\
**Created:** [July 23, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137 "2021-07-23T12:00:01Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/382 "2021-07-30T00:32:42Z")

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[Moderating]

Is swimming a 2021 Summer Olympics event? Yes? Then it’s not a sidetrack.

And since I keep on getting reports on this thread for “hijacks” and “sidetracks”, let me make it clear: This thread is about the Olympics. Discussion of any Olympic event is on-topic. It remains on-topic even if other people want to discuss it for longer than you do. Stop reporting “hijacks” that aren’t.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/383 "2021-07-30T00:45:01Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Thanks, I’ll have to check it out. How long are their races?

Each race is around 30 minutes. I’m not sure of the distance. They run 12 races with a cumulative score based on their finishing place in each. I think they’ve completed 6 so far, so plenty of time to watch some more.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/384 "2021-07-30T00:57:20Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I just watched Richard Torrez Jr. debut in boxing and man, he was amazing. I have rarely seen so many punches land in such a short time in boxing. He totally destroyed his opponent.
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> They were not wearing the typical headgear I see in Olympics boxing and they also did not have white sections on their gloves, which I thought they used to score points. Did the rules change or am I out of touch?

Yes - they changed a few years ago. Now they use “10-point must” scoring, without having to count the punches or worry about hitting with the front part of the glove. Also, headgear is banned in men’s boxing as of 2013 - and I think this was the rule up through 1980 as well.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/385 "2021-07-30T00:58:37Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> Which leads to the usual result of the all-round medalists medaling in two individual events and medaling in the team for their bag of four.
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> Just bear in mind, the equivalent situation, in the past 10 Olympiads occurs 2 1/2 time more frequently in swimming and in essentially no other discipline.

Nitpick: Your cite was based on number of gold medals, not medals in general. The number of events with 4+ medals for one competitor is likely higher than this.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/386 "2021-07-30T01:01:36Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> Use the extra broadcast time to show badminton or something else.

Yes, please! I have to say that doubles badminton is much more exciting than doubles tennis.

I’m loving the BMX races. I like how they do the heats. Three runs, sum of placing instead time determines advancement. I’d like to see that in other races.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/387 "2021-07-30T01:42:48Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Nitpick: Your cite was based on number of gold medals, not medals in general. The number of events with 4+ medals for one competitor is likely higher than this.

Bzzzz wrong.  
Which can be determined by clicking the URL and reading the cite.  
The Wiki cite is titled, “multiple gold medallist’s” which it is but the table **lists all medals** , and the calculation is **based on total medals** won.

Now, yes there would be athletes who have won multiple “minor” medals at the same Olympiad without winning a gold. My money the proportion of those is much the same between disciplines. ie mostly swimmers and gymnasts.  
Will check out my Google fu and post the results based on every Olympic medal won if you like.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/388 "2021-07-30T03:58:48Z")

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Is Simone Biles done or can she still try for individual event medals?

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/389 "2021-07-30T04:34:43Z")

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She has not yet withdrawn from the individual events next week, and she qualified to compete for all four of them.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/390 "2021-07-30T04:35:53Z")

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I believe she has completely withdrawn. NBC showed a practice Simone released today. She was on the parallel bars and just fell when she tried her dismount. She is not ready.

Oooh! The steeplechase! I don’t know why I enjoy watching it but I do.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/391 "2021-07-30T05:49:59Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> I’m loving the BMX races.

I’m watching Women’s BMX. There was a crash, and the announcer said, _“It’s like full-on NASCAR on two wheels!”_ Couldn’t be more wrong on more levels.

This has now become the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. 😁

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/392 "2021-07-30T10:02:21Z")

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(Field) Hockey  
Both Australian Mens & Womens team win their first four pool games for the first time in Olympic history. Both look odds on to progress.

(Field) hockey is similar to soccer/football in there being distinct styles.  
In soccer there is the European vs South American style.  
In hockey it is is (broadly) Europe vs Asia.

The Asian teams typically play 5-3-2 with the focus being faster, more direct and trying to score field goals while Europe play something akin to soccer formations eg 4-4-2 or 2-4-4 more controlled, slower trying to force and convert penalty corners.

Hockey, like soccer, is at it’s most interesting when the two styles meet. As it turns out the draw for both men and women put almost all the European teams in one pool and all the Asian teams in the other.

So the pool leaders and most likely to progress to semis for the womens are Germany+Netherland and Australia+Argentina while the mens are Australia+India and Belgium+Netherlands/Great Britain

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/393 "2021-07-30T10:09:03Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Yeah _sports’ rules_ can be arbitrary. _Arguments_ OTOH are not supposed to be

There is nothing in my argument that is arbitrary that I can see. Certainly nothing that you’ve pointed out.

I think you just don’t agree with my opinion on the pointlessness of exactly the same course being covered in multiple, mandated, sub-optimal ways.

That’s fine, I’m not seeking to persuade you. You like what you like.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/394 "2021-07-30T10:45:30Z")

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Canada v Brasil going to PKs. Not the most exciting match (too many older players) but entertaining.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/395 "2021-07-30T10:54:39Z")

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C-M- Sinclair the GOAT of Canadian footy misses  
B-G- Marta the GOAT of Brasilian footy scores  
C-G-Fleming scores gotta love her she went to UCLA  
B-G-Dabinha scores  
C-G-Lawrence scores  
B-G-Erica scores  
C-G-Leon scores  
B-M-Andressa misses  
C-G-Gilles scores  
B-M-Raffaelle miises

Canada wins to face victor of Ned v USA

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/396 "2021-07-30T10:57:00Z")

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Aust v Great Britain going to extra time.  
2-2 in normal time with late equaliser by Sam Kerr

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/397 "2021-07-30T11:00:08Z")

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Thanks for this. For Americans its on the NBC Olympics streaming site.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/398 "2021-07-30T11:01:52Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> Bzzzz wrong.  
> Which can be determined by clicking the URL and reading the cite.

and then…

> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> Now, yes there would be athletes who have won multiple “minor” medals at the same Olympiad without winning a gold.

Which was my actual point.  
You’ll be astonished to note that I did actually open your cite to realize this and point it out.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/399 "2021-07-30T11:10:04Z")

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Matilda GK nice stop on a British PK

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/400 "2021-07-30T11:11:24Z")

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Australia scores…fantastic goal that even the best GK in the world couldnt stop.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/summer-olympics-2021-ongoing-discussion/947137/401 "2021-07-30T11:11:48Z")

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Matilda’s regroup from saving PK and now lead after a shot with wicked deflection

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