# Sunbathing topless not recommended for fatty and not pretty women **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 28, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560 "2008-09-28T07:57:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/1 "2008-09-28T07:57:10Z")
[It’s true!](http://english.pravda.ru/science/health/25-09-2008/106457-sunbathing_topless-0) > [@](#): > > However, mammalogists strongly disapprove topless beach leisure, especially if a woman already suffers from mammary gland ailments. > > “Sunbathing, especially topless sunbathing, must be excluded at node-positive mastopathy. The heat can trigger the development of malignant tumors in the mammary gland. However, sunbathing is allowed at diffuse mastopathy,” surgeon Vladimir Yevtyagin said. > > In addition to medical nuances, sunbathing topless also involves an element of flirting, psychologists say. Many women like it when men stare at them. > > Sunbathing topless is strictly forbidden in many Muslims states. The Italian beach etiquette says that “fatty, ugly and unpretty women are not allowed to appear on the beach topless ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/2 "2008-09-28T08:46:37Z")
_Pravda_ has fallen a long, long way from being anything close to resembling a trustworthy source of information. (Not that this is a recent phenomenon, either.) ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/3 "2008-09-28T20:33:45Z")
I am glad that was finally cleared up. I was getting worried about all the “fatty, ugly and unpretty women” appearing topless on my beaches. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/4 "2008-09-28T20:47:18Z")
> [@Olentzero](#): > > _Pravda_ has fallen a long, long way from being anything close to resembling a trustworthy source of information. (Not that this is a recent phenomenon, either.) Yes. These days it’s more like the National Enquirer. Complete with OMG! Space Aliens Ate My Baby!!!11!!!one! ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/5 "2008-09-28T20:51:15Z")
It was cool to read back in the 80s (for linguistic more than political purposes) when I was teaching myself Russian, but in the mid-90s when they started running articles about the world population of werewolves I knew it was time to say “прощай”. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/6 "2008-09-28T22:38:00Z")
> [@Olentzero](#): > > _Pravda_ has fallen a long, long way from being anything close to resembling a trustworthy source of information. (Not that this is a recent phenomenon, either.) **Pravda** has _never_ been a trustworthy source of information. ---
**Author:** ![Sticks\_and\_Scones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sticks_and_scones/32/16951_2.png) [@Sticks\_and\_Scones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sticks_and_Scones)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/7 "2008-09-28T23:24:49Z")
: puts top back on and scurries from the thread: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/8 "2008-09-29T03:15:06Z")
> [@](#): > > The Italian beach etiquette says that “fatty, ugly and unpretty women are not allowed to appear on the beach toples Uh-huh. And which woman is going to admit that she is “fatty, ugly, and unpretty”? Reminds me of the Jack Chalker series “G.O.D., Inc.” In the fantasy world in that series, the Rules state that beautiful women must be skimpily dressed. Since all women consider themselves veautiful, they ALL go about skimpily dressed. If I were a “fatty, ugly, or unpretty” woman, I’d almost feel obliged to sunbathe topless as a statement. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/9 "2008-09-29T15:18:26Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > And which woman is going to admit that she is “fatty, ugly, and unpretty”? In my experience virtually all of them do, all of the time. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/10 "2008-09-29T15:29:33Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > **Pravda** has _never_ been a trustworthy source of information. AIUI, Pravda used to be a reliable source of propaganda, and is now apparently a reliable source of garbage. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/11 "2008-09-29T15:33:38Z")
There’s no news in Pravda and no pravda in the news. ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/12 "2008-09-29T15:48:40Z")
> [@Always Brings Pie](#): > > : puts top back on and scurries from the thread: > > 😃 Don’t worry - I’m sure it’s fine if you always bring pie. 😃 All things will be forgiven. Now me, on the other hand, until I learn to cook, best stay clothed! Oh, and it being a local holiday here, it is raining anyway. Edited becos cannt spel ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/13 "2008-09-29T15:51:29Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > There’s no news in Pravda and no pravda in the news. Ah, my schoolteacher used to tell that joke, re \*Pravda \*and _Izvestia_😃 ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/14 "2008-09-29T15:52:21Z")
You know what this thread needs? More shitting. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/15 "2008-09-29T15:54:19Z")
Mammalogists study mammaries? I thought they’d study mammals. And yes, being told I can’t take my top off because I may be fat or unpretty actually makes me want to take my top off and say “Ha! In your face you mean rulemakers!” And then I’d get embarrassed and hide. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/16 "2008-09-29T15:55:42Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Uh-huh. And which woman is going to admit that she is “fatty, ugly, and unpretty”? Reminds me of the Jack Chalker series “G.O.D., Inc.” In the fantasy world in that series, the Rules state that beautiful women must be skimpily dressed. Since all women consider themselves veautiful, they ALL go about skimpily dressed. > > If I were a “fatty, ugly, or unpretty” woman, I’d almost feel obliged to sunbathe topless as a statement. I would say most women don’t consider themselves beautiful. I’ve read stats which say as few as 2% of women do. Kind of sad, really. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/17 "2008-09-29T17:32:47Z")
> [@](#): > > I would say most women don’t consider themselves beautiful. I’ve read stats which say as few as 2% of women do. Kind of sad, really. I think we should encourage all women to sunbathe topless until this problem is overcome. I will do my best to support them. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/18 "2008-09-29T17:37:53Z")
Well, thank God for diffuse mastopathy is all I can say. (wtf is diffuse mastopathy? abnormal condition of the mast–er, mammary glands spread all over?) I have to question the fatty and not pretty. What if you’re pretty and a “fatty”? Checkmate, I think, sir! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![KnitWit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@KnitWit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KnitWit)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/19 "2008-09-29T19:35:31Z")
What’s the difference between ugly and unpretty? I suppose you could be unpretty and just be AVERAGE, but not actually ugly. So does that mean you have to be a beauty queen? ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560/20 "2008-09-29T21:40:13Z")
Just to clarify a point: fatty, ugly, unpretty men can still flaunt thier man-boobs to thier hearts content right? Espcially in a tiny Speedo? your welcome for that mental image 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunbathing-topless-not-recommended-for-fatty-and-not-pretty-women/465560.md?page=2)