# Sunday Morning Lies: Cheney and Rice **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182 "2006-09-10T17:36:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/21 "2006-09-10T23:21:36Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] Am I the only one that doesn’t understand EITHER the original “But Soft!” OR this bit of gibberish? [/QUOTE] “but, soft!” is Shakespearean for “yo, listen up! lookee there!” I have no idea what **Scylla** is on about. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/22 "2006-09-10T23:25:06Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] Am I the only one that doesn’t understand EITHER the original “But Soft!”… [/QUOTE] “But soft” is an Elizabethan phrase, found in Shakespeare (“But soft! what light through yonder window breaks…”) meaning to speak quietly. Kind of like someone saying “Shhh!” just before they whisper a secret: not be silent, but be quiet, or stealthy. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/23 "2006-09-10T23:26:22Z")
[QUOTE=squeegee] I have no idea what **Scylla** is on about. [/QUOTE] Obfuscatory bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/24 "2006-09-11T00:17:26Z")
[Quote=Scylla] I put wheat down my shorts before I go for a jog, and when I’m done I make bread with the flour. Guess what I use for spread? [/Quote] Dude, I am _so_ not ever having a sandwich at your house… ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/25 "2006-09-11T01:12:28Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Was that the ghost of Nixon, hovering and whispering, “Just say you don’t remember, you can’t recall”? [/QUOTE] Ah, so that’s where HRC learned that phrase, I should have figured. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/26 "2006-09-11T01:19:06Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Ah, so that’s where HRC learned that phrase, I should have figured. [/QUOTE] :rolleyes: Even for a Tightie Rightie, that’s mighty lame. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/27 "2006-09-11T01:22:21Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] :rolleyes: Even for a Tightie Rightie, that’s mighty lame. [/QUOTE] Why? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/28 "2006-09-11T01:29:07Z")
Thanks for explaining the Shakespearean reference, guys. Scyllese is still Greek to me. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/29 "2006-09-11T01:57:32Z")
But soft! what bread through yonder window breaks? It is the yeast, and **Scylla** ’s in the bun! Could be worse. Could be Rice cakes. BTW, I have inside-the-Beltway information that Condi stocked up long ago on a lifetime supply of Russian Leather. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/30 "2006-09-11T02:10:27Z")
[QUOTE=Zoe] But soft! what bread through yonder window breaks? It is the yeast, and **Scylla** ’s in the bun! [/QUOTE] I don’t want to be anywhere near anything breaking near Scylla’s buns. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/31 "2006-09-11T02:11:16Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Ah, so that’s where HRC learned that phrase, I should have figured. [/QUOTE] I take it that in this context, HRC is House Republican Caucus? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/32 "2006-09-11T02:22:49Z")
Her Royal Coxswain. Ceremonial position in England. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/33 "2006-09-11T02:33:43Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Thank you for sharing. Please tell someone who cares. [/QUOTE] Butt soft or hard ass? Which is it? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/34 "2006-09-11T02:45:47Z")
I’m getting a little creeped out over here… ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/35 "2006-09-11T03:06:05Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] I take it that in this context, HRC is House Republican Caucus? [/QUOTE] Senator Clinton’s favorite response during the Whitewater hullaballo seems to have been “I don’t recall”. Like those missing Rose Law Firm docs that were “found” in the Residence. Senator Clinton was also peripherally involved in President Nixon’s impeachment hearings, so it follows that she learned the value of “I don’t recall” at that time. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/36 "2006-09-11T03:11:02Z")
Ba-zing! That really showed those lefties! And exonerated Cheney and Rice! You go girl! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/37 "2006-09-11T03:19:56Z")
Is this about the secret Arkansas cocaine-smuggling landing strips? Or George Soros gunning down Vince Foster? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/38 "2006-09-11T03:20:21Z")
[Quote=Carol Stream] Senator Clinton’s favorite response during the Whitewater hullaballo seems to have been “I don’t recall”. [/Quote] So it’s perfectly OK by you that Mr. Cheney and Ms. Rice use the same lame excuse when confronted over the falsehood of their claims, ones that, you know, were supposed to justify a war that has cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars? That’s fine with you, correct? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/39 "2006-09-11T03:20:46Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Senator Clinton’s favorite response during the Whitewater hullaballo seems to have been “I don’t recall”. Like those missing Rose Law Firm docs that were “found” in the Residence. [/quote] Acquitted for all that. > [@](#): > > Senator Clinton was also peripherally involved in President Nixon’s impeachment hearings, so it follows that she learned the value of “I don’t recall” at that time. Even being generous and supposing she did lie, she was not lying to defend sorry reasons for going to war. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/40 "2006-09-11T03:21:01Z")
On the other hand, Clinton told a bunch of fibs. There’s clearly a moral equivalence here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182.md?page=3)