# Sunday Morning Lies: Cheney and Rice **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182 "2006-09-10T17:36:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/61 "2006-09-12T03:13:46Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Are you refuting the fact that her responses tended toward “I don’t recall”? [/QUOTE] Hey Carol. Has it ever once crossed your mind that Hillary answered in that way to questions regarding the work she had done on minor legal issues years earlier because she actually could not recall? I didn’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/62 "2006-09-12T04:00:58Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] Hey Carol. Has it ever once crossed your mind that Hillary answered in that way to questions regarding the work she had done on minor legal issues years earlier because she actually could not recall? I didn’t think so. [/QUOTE] Hey Frosti, has it ever once crossed your mind that Hillary answered in that way because she had something to hide? I didn’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/63 "2006-09-12T04:04:00Z")
Hey, Carol, has it ever crossed your mind that nobody gives a rat’s ass about your bot-spews? I didn’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/64 "2006-09-12T04:08:49Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] Are _you_ refuting the fact that Cheney has lied and continues to lie to the American people? Because if you aren’t, perhaps you should start your own “HRC doesn’t recall” thread. I mean, instead of jumping up and down in this one yelling, “Look at me! Look at me! Don’t look at our lying Vice Prez! Look over here at me!” [/QUOTE] Aw, cut the poor baby some slack, willya? It’s getting kinda lonely out there on the looney fringe. Lotsa ordinary folk drifting away, refusing to gobble up any more of the premasticated red meat, flipping to another station, stuff like that. A demagogue watching the demos slip away can get desperate, you know? ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/65 "2006-09-12T04:55:59Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Hey, Carol, has it ever crossed your mind that nobody gives a rat’s ass about your bot-spews? I didn’t think so. [/QUOTE] Hey, Dipshit, has it ever crossed your mind that nobody in the real world gives a rat’s ass about the loony lefty ideas that are regularly posted here? This place is like a circle-jerk, but with recipes and threads about kittens. Lame. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/66 "2006-09-12T06:26:47Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Hey, Dipshit, has it ever crossed your mind that nobody in the real world gives a rat’s ass about the loony lefty ideas that are regularly posted here? [/Quote] Yeah, there are plenty of folks here who basically treat this place as a billboard for political advertising, and it’s full to overflowing with useless political pissing matches. Now you’ve wasted a bunch of space for no useful purpose as well. Good job. > [@](#): > > This place is like a circle-jerk, but with recipes and threads about kittens. Lame. Well, if we’re talking lame, utter non sequiters concerning Hillary Clinton in a thread that doesn’t have the slightest thing to do with her is pretty much the taxtbook definition of the word. If you feel, as you apparently do, that there is no value added here, you might want to ask yourself what the point is of having taken the time to drop your little series of turds into this thread. [sub](fixed coding. – Uke)[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/67 "2006-09-12T09:01:06Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Hey, Dipshit, has it ever crossed your mind that nobody in the real world gives a rat’s ass about the loony lefty ideas that are regularly posted here? This place is like a circle-jerk, but with recipes and threads about kittens. Lame. [/QUOTE] You know, I bet if you offered to never to post here again, a bunch of Dopers would be more than happy to refund your money. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/68 "2006-09-12T13:32:32Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] . You gotta wonder when the tipping point becomes the boiling point, a angry mobs of peasants march on the WH with torches and pitchforks… Serfs Up! [/QUOTE] Gas prices are going down, right? Your answer is never. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/69 "2006-09-12T23:21:00Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Senator Clinton’s favorite response during the Whitewater hullaballo seems to have been “I don’t recall”. Like those missing Rose Law Firm docs that were “found” in the Residence. Senator Clinton was also peripherally involved in President Nixon’s impeachment hearings, so it follows that she learned the value of “I don’t recall” at that time. [/QUOTE] Oliver North also said “I don’t recall” during the Iran-Contra hearings. What do you make of that? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/70 "2006-09-12T23:31:21Z")
[QUOTE=Rilchiam] Oliver North also said “I don’t recall” during the Iran-Contra hearings. What do you make of that? [/QUOTE] A patriot! A true American! Defending his president even against an obviously Communist-tainted Congress! Give the man a political office! Sorry…I think 1980s-era Berke Breathed just took over my hands… ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/71 "2006-09-13T01:04:24Z")
[QUOTE=El\_Kabong] Well, if we’re talking lame, utter non sequiters concerning Hillary Clinton in a thread that doesn’t have the slightest thing to do with her is pretty much the taxtbook definition of the word. [/QUOTE] Under your definition, the OP itself was a non sequitur, in that Richard Nixon has nothing to do with Secretary Rice. Why didn’t you call out **elucidator** for posting irrelevant "turds"in his OP? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/72 "2006-09-13T01:07:12Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Under your definition, the OP itself was a non sequitur, in that Richard Nixon has nothing to do with Secretary Rice. Why didn’t you call out **elucidator** for posting irrelevant "turds"in his OP? [/QUOTE] LOOK AT ME! I SAID “TURDS!” PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE OP! ONLY PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!! ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/73 "2006-09-13T02:27:41Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Hey Frosti, has it ever once crossed your mind that Hillary answered in that way because she had something to hide? I didn’t think so. [/QUOTE] Ouch! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/74 "2006-09-13T02:48:36Z")
But what all you people attacking Cheney are ignoring is that TED KENNEDY MURDERED MARY JO KPOECHNE!!! ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/75 "2006-09-13T10:24:37Z")
[QUOTE=Rilchiam] Oliver North also said “I don’t recall” during the Iran-Contra hearings. What do you make of that? [/QUOTE] Fawn Hall was hawt!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/76 "2006-09-13T13:42:25Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] Crikey! I’m a mere pup of 37 and my numbers aren’t that low! What’s your secret, **Dave**? [/QUOTE] Don’t let attacks on you by diembodied, anonymous voices from cyberspace bother you. Have an episode of rapid pulse reate, go to the hospital in Bakersfield by helicopter and end up taking 4 pills a day for arhythmia. That’s the secret. It was so hard to listen to Chenery sit there and suavely say things along the lines of - No, there were no WMD but Saddam had the potential … and like Well, there was a meeting in Prague … and know that there were roughly 40% of poll respondants who actually believed him. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2006, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/77 "2006-09-13T15:07:48Z")
Reading through the transcript, this jumped out at me: > [@Cheney on Meet the Press](#): > > Think where we’d be if he was still there. He’d be sitting on top of a big pile of cash, because he’d have 65 and $70 oil… Um, I was under the impression that one reason oil was so high was this administrations hugely moronic, destructive middle east policy, with Iraq being the centerpeice. Is this a supremely idiotic thing for Cheney to say, or am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/78 "2006-09-15T21:46:44Z")
[Bush on Saddam and Zarqawi today](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.html): > [@](#): > > THE PRESIDENT: The point I was making to Ken Herman’s question was that Saddam Hussein was a state sponsor of terror, and that Mr. Zarqawi was in Iraq. He had been wounded in Afghanistan, had come to Iraq for treatment. He had ordered the killing of a U.S. citizen in Jordan. I never said there was an operational relationship. I was making the point that Saddam Hussein had been declared a state sponsor of terror for a reason, and, therefore, he was dangerous. Part of the reason being a ‘nonoperational relationship’, whatever that may be? This is _very_ confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/79 "2006-09-16T02:25:55Z")
Wait a minute; the definition of being a “state sponser of terrorism” has been downgraded to having a terrorist living in a country you’re running? Weren’t all those al Qaida terrorists living in the United States for months before September 11th? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182/80 "2006-09-16T02:43:46Z")
[QUOTE=Don’t Call Me Shirley] Um, I was under the impression that one reason oil was so high was this administrations hugely moronic, destructive middle east policy, with Iraq being the centerpeice. Is this a supremely idiotic thing for Cheney to say, or am I missing something? [/QUOTE] “Moronic”? “Destructive”? Surely you jest. It’s been very constructive for the stock portfolios of rich people with oil holdings. Like, oh, Dick Cheney. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-lies-cheney-and-rice/372182.md?page=5)