# Sunday Morning Puzzle # 10

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**Created:** [March 25, 2001, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413 "2001-03-25T14:16:24Z")\
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The solution to **SMP#10** involves a list of well-known titles with something in common. That common factor makes them appropriate for this week’s puzzle. The titles have been broken into “doublets” and these doublets have been alphabetized. For example: “Sunday Morning Puzzle Number Ten” would be broken into SU ND AY MO RN IN GP UZ ZL EN UM BE RT EN, and then alphabetized thus: AY BE EN EN GP IN MO ND RN RT SU UM UZ ZL.

Two minor problems, one mitigating circumstance, and one note:

**Minor Problem #1** : Prior to their being broken into doublets, the original titles were all altered in a certain way so that the opposite is true: These titles are now inappropriate for this week’s puzzle.

**Minor Problem #2** : In addition to the alteration mentioned in MP#1, two extra doublets have been added to each entry 1 through 15. These extra doublets are not to be used when spelling out the altered titles.

**Mitigating Circumstance** : The two extra doublets in each entry from 1 through 15 --in that order-- will together spell out an additional eight answers. These answers have the same thing in common that the original titles have --though in a different way.

**Note** : Either of the extra pair of doublets in each entry may come first when spelling out the eight extra answers.

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1. AP AR CA IA IS MA ME NA NI RI YE

2. AN DI IN NO OB ON RR

3. ED ER ON PA RD TS

4. EA EW KE MA MA ON ON OW RS SH ST TH

5. DI IS ME OL OP SO TR

6. DR IC IL KS NW ST UM

7. AD CO DE DE HE LY RD WA

8. AR EA EE ES HO LA LI NT SA TH TP

9. DE EE ES FE FT HE HO NS QU RS WO YA

10. ES HE LA LL NE RE RE SS TH TH TI WI

11. AP EL ER IO NG NS NT OA OF RI TH TH

12. DI ER ET HY NG

13. IA ND NT OG RU SO SS

14. AD AM BO GA GR HE IN NO TH UT

15. AN CA CE CH DI DS ON OU SS

What are the 15 altered titles? What are the 15 original titles? What are the 8 extra answers? What is the common factor?

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I’m not sure what you mean by titles. Are they place names or movie titles or anything like that?

In the mean time for 3. I get PARDONER with **ED** and **TS** outstanding. However it could also be PARDONED in which case the two leftover doublets would be **ER** and **TS**. However, if they’ve been made inappropriate then PARDONER could be PRISONER as in the TV series.

Am I close or am I just rambling?

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/3 "2001-03-25T19:14:39Z")

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Was there and EXECUTIONER?

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/4 "2001-03-25T23:00:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by TheVoiceofReason \*  
> \*\*I’m not sure what you mean by titles. Are they place names or movie titles or anything like that?  
> \*\*

Sorry **VOR** , if I am any more specific I might give the whole thing away, as I think I did in SMP#8.

It could help to know I was going to dedicate the puzzle to **ES IL LE NE SM TO WI**. But I worry that makes the puzzle too easy. Oh well, it is done now.

Perhaps you could tell me something in return,\*\* VOR\*\*. What was the missing statue in your “Tougher Puzzle” thread a month or so ago?

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/5 "2001-03-25T23:01:22Z")

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Well, I’m not sure I fully understand the principle here–what’s been altered and all–but it seems clear that #6 is DRUMSTICKS, with IL and NW left over; that #7 might be DEADLY COWARD, with DE and HE remaining; that 13 could be RUSSIAN DOG, with SO and NT still there.

Where that gets me is, temporarily at least, nowhere, but maybe it will spark someone else’s brilliance.

This is Oscar week, isn’t it? I kind of want these to be movie titles, but I am not a movie buff and don’t know very many. Are they opposites or something? Like, DEADLY COWARD being the opposite of Braveheart (wasn’t that the name of a film?) or DRUMSTICKS being related somehow to Wings or Trombone Slides–not that I think they were films but hey, you never know?

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2001, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/6 "2001-03-25T23:04:51Z")

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Aha, a hint!

LEWIS MILESTONE, perhaps?

Say what?

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/7 "2001-03-26T10:54:39Z")

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I think you’re right with the Oscars thing **snac**. Braveheart also won the Best Picture Oscar so I think the others may also be Best Picture Oscar winners. However, because I suck at anagrams I haven’t been able to come up with any more answers so I’ll just leave it to the ingenuity of the teeming millions.

P.S. Biotop, I’ve bumped up my **Tougher Puzzle** for you with a hint which should make it easier.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/8 "2001-03-26T12:40:14Z")

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Maybe 12 is DIETER (with HY and NG left over), the opposite of Hannibal Lecter from _Silence of the Lambs_. RUSSIAN DOG could be the opposite of _American Beauty_.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/9 "2001-03-26T12:43:56Z")

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And if 3 is PARDONER, that could be _Unforgiven_.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/10 "2001-03-26T12:50:17Z")

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For 2 - NOON INDIAN (leaving OB and RR), _Midnight Cowboy_

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/11 "2001-03-26T13:12:17Z")

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14 - NOTHING ABOUT ADAM (leaving GR and HE), _All About Eve_

I think 5 is METROPOLIS (leaving DI and SO), but I have no idea what it refers to.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/12 "2001-03-26T14:31:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Protesilaus \*  
> \*\*And if 3 is PARDONER, that could be _Unforgiven_. \*\*

If so, I’d assume the answer is PARDONED (leaving TS and ER), not PARDONER.

12 could be DINGHY (ER and ET left over), which becomes _Titanic_.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/13 "2001-03-26T15:01:21Z")

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Dang, this thing is addictive…

For #4 I get THE WEAKEST SHOW ON MARS (MA and ON left over), which presumably becomes _The Greatest Show on Earth_.

As for #5’s METROPOLIS, I presume the opposite of a big city is a small city, such as a town, village, or…_Hamlet_? Is that the Branagh, Gibson, or Olivier version, I wonder?

[sub]must…do…work…now…[/sub]

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/14 "2001-03-26T16:09:04Z")

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1. is **Few of the Queens Horses** Whis is **All the Kings men** leaving **DE** and **YA** which won best picture in 1949.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/15 "2001-03-26T19:17:28Z")

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1 - A Parisian in America MA YE  
(An American in Paris, 1952)

2 - Noon Indian RR OB  
(Midnight Cowboy, 1970)

3 - Pardoned ER TS  
(Unforgiven, 1993)

4 - The Weakest Show on Mars ON MA  
(The Greatest Show on Earth, 1953)

5 - Metropolis DI SO  
(Hamlet, 1949)

6 - Drumsticks NW IL  
(Wings, 1929)

7 - Deadly Coward DE HE  
(Braveheart, 1996)

8 - The Earliest Peasant HO LA  
(The Last Emperor, 1988)

9 - Few of the Queen’s Horses DE YA  
(All the King’s Men, 1950 (yeah,  
I thought it would be "All the  
President’s Men too)

10 - Here with the stillness LA RE  
(Gone with the Wind, 1940)  
11 - The Roaring of the Lions NT AP  
(Silence of the Lambs, 1992)  
12 - Dinghy (ER ET) ET ER  
(Titanic, 1998)

13 - Russian Dog (NT SO) SO NT  
(American Beauty, 2000)

14 - Nothing About Adam (GR HE) HE GR  
(All about Eve, 1951)

15 - Cad’s Dissonance OU CH  
(Gentleman’s Agreement, 1948)

Mayer  
Robertson  
Madison  
Wilde  
Heholadey  
A la renta  
Peterson  
The Grouch

No… I couldn’t solve the “left over bits”… it seems to make sense except for the “Heholadey/A la Renta” bit though… Movies which are peoples names?

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1 - A Parisian in America MA YE  
(An American in Paris, 1952)

2 - Noon Indian RR OB  
(Midnight Cowboy, 1970)

3 - Pardoned ER TS  
(Unforgiven, 1993)

4 - The Weakest Show on Mars ON MA  
(The Greatest Show on Earth, 1953)

5 - Metropolis DI SO  
(Hamlet, 1949)

6 - Drumsticks NW IL  
(Wings, 1929)

7 - Deadly Coward DE HE  
(Braveheart, 1996)

8 - The Earliest Peasant HO LA  
(The Last Emperor, 1988)

9 - Few of the Queen’s Horses DE YA  
(All the King’s Men, 1950 (yeah,  
I thought it would be "All the  
President’s Men too)

10 - Here with the stillness LA RE  
(Gone with the Wind, 1940)  
11 - The Roaring of the Lions NT AP  
(Silence of the Lambs, 1992)  
12 - Dinghy ET ER  
(Titanic, 1998)

13 - Russian Dog SO NT  
(American Beauty, 2000)

14 - Nothing About Adam HE GR  
(All about Eve, 1951)

15 - Cad’s Dissonance OU CH  
(Gentleman’s Agreement, 1948)

Mayer  
Robertson  
Madison  
Wilde  
Heholadey  
A la renta  
Peterson  
The Grouch

No… I couldn’t solve the “left over bits”… it seems to make sense except for the “Heholadey/A la Renta” bit though… Movies which are peoples names?

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2001, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/17 "2001-03-26T19:26:23Z")

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Sorry about the repeated post…  
Just realised… Oscar Mayer, Oscar the Grouch, Oscar Peterson, Oscar Wilde, Oscar Robertson, Oscar de la Hoya, Oscar de la Renta and Oscar Madison!

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Congrats all on the group effort on a very difficult puzzle. Good job **Jenerico** for catching most of the rest and discovering the common factor. I didn’t know if anyone would get “Cad’s Dissonance”.

The altered title on #7 in your answer is incorrect, but only slightly.

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Congrats all on the group effort on a very difficult puzzle. Good job **Jenericho** for catching most of the rest and discovering the common factor. I didn’t know if anyone would get “Cad’s Dissonance”. Altered title on #7 in your answer is incorrect, but only slightly.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2001, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sunday-morning-puzzle-10/59413/20 "2001-03-27T12:07:19Z")

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Cheers!  
I realised the mistake in #7 after realising the “Oscar” part… mea culpa (or at least an anagram thereof).

#15 did have me stuck for about 15 minutes, so I slightly cheated and looked at a list of Academy Awards - which seemed no help at all, so I was stuck for another 30 minutes, rearranging bits and desperately trying to get them to form into words that made some sort of sense. But, congratulations on a genuinely challenging and entertaining puzzle. Looking forward to next Sunday!
