# Super Bowl 2008

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 3, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129 "2008-02-03T20:23:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/201 "2008-02-04T03:40:23Z")

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Beautiful game, best Superbowl I’ve ever seen. The Giants deserved it and anyone whining about the refs should start an IV of class and shut the heck up.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/202 "2008-02-04T03:40:43Z")

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That was unbelievable. I was watching the Giants a lot at the beginning of the season. If you’d told they were the going to win the Super Bowl, I’d have laughed in your face, and then called frineds to come over and laugh in your face, too.

The rush on Brady was terrific. The way to beat the Patriots has always been to keep the ball out of his hands and knock his ass down when you can’t. Everyone knew it, but no one seemed able to do it. The Giants did it. Like the Steelers a couple years ago, they played their best football at the end of the season, and they earned the championship.

Well done, **Giants**.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/203 "2008-02-04T03:41:06Z")

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The past two Super Bowls have been about getting monkeys off the backs of the Manning brothers. Hope they’re happy. 😉

The Patriots defense played a pretty good game in limiting the Giants to two touchdowns, it’s the Patriot’s offense who played poorly/were dominated which cost them the game. I remember thinking at the beginning of the game that the Pats looked tired and unpracticed. Did anybody notice any signs that Brady’s “injuries” were affecting his play?

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/204 "2008-02-04T03:42:16Z")

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[QUOTE=brickbacon]  
What’s the reason for the rule in your opinion?  
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Because the league is a bunch of jealous, bitter Patriot haters. Perfectly obvious.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/205 "2008-02-04T03:43:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF]  
The league dispelled my ignorance on the matter by fining the Patriots and taking away one of their draft picks. I guess the league is ignorant of their own rules, eh? How else do you explain the fact that the Patriots were penalized for cheating?  
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They did it because they had already warned Belichick and he kept doing it anyway. The league was just trying to win a dick measuring contest. It had nothing to do with the Pats gaining any genuine advantage.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/206 "2008-02-04T03:46:33Z")

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[QUOTE=JohnT]  
The past two Super Bowls have been about getting monkeys off the backs of the Manning brothers. Hope they’re happy. 😉

The Patriots defense played a pretty good game in limiting the Giants to two touchdowns, it’s the Patriot’s offense who played poorly/were dominated which cost them the game. I remember thinking at the beginning of the game that the Pats looked tired and unpracticed. Did anybody notice any signs that Brady’s “injuries” were affecting his play?  
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He sailed a bunch of deep throws. That’s a prtetty good indication that he couldn’t plant good on his ankle. He’s usually got a laser beam on those rainbows to Moss. I do think his ankle might have been more screwed up than he was letting on. High ankle sprains can really hinder QBs on deep throws.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/207 "2008-02-04T03:47:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Karma for what? They didn’t do anything wrong. The rule is bullshit. Every team videotapes signals and it confers no significant advantage. It wasn’t “cheating,” like so many people keep saying. NE has just been getting swiftboated because they’re better than everybody else.  
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…except the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION NY GIANTS!!! 😃

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/208 "2008-02-04T03:47:50Z")

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The long play in the Giants’ last drive when first Eli somehow didn’t get sacked and then the receiver caught the ball by holding onto his helmet was one of the best, clutchest plays ever. It should be up there with the Montana-Clarke “The Catch”. Wow. Just wow.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/209 "2008-02-04T03:48:15Z")

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Man, Belichick looked **dejected**. Like Charlie Brown after the spelling bee. I can see him staying in his pitch-black room all day tomorrow. Tom Brady will have to go in and say, “But you know what, coach?..The world didn’t come to an end.”

Reason I have Charlie Brown on the brain, of course, is because of that commercial! I LOVE that for once, the round-headed kid won something!

ETA: **Diogenes** , WTF are you saying? They only enforced the rules because they’re the rules? And if it’s okay to video signals, just not from the sidelines, then don’t do it from the sidelines.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/210 "2008-02-04T03:48:26Z")

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Since this was the only game I actually watched on TV all season, I just have a quick question:

Is Pam Oliver a robot?

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/211 "2008-02-04T03:50:28Z")

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I have to say that one of the most surprising things to me, a Steeler fan, was that Plaxico Burress actually caught the ball in the end zone at a critical moment.

He also was entirely correct that it would be a relatively low scoring game. Of course, Tom Brady had a good laugh, suggesting that predicting the Patriots would score only 17 points was crazy. Tom Brady is a whiny pussy, and the Giants D kicked his ass.

I thought it really sucked that they gave Hoodsie a review of the 12 man on the field play, and that they called it in his favor. I’m just glad that it didn’t make a difference. The Patriots luck ran out, right at the right time, and it was beautiful.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/212 "2008-02-04T03:52:50Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]  
The long play in the Giants’ last drive when first Eli somehow didn’t get sacked and then the receiver caught the ball by holding onto his helmet was one of the best, clutchest plays ever. It should be up there with the Montana-Clarke “The Catch”. Wow. Just wow.  
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That was an over-the-shoulder Willie Mays catch.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/213 "2008-02-04T03:55:15Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]  
The long play in the Giants’ last drive when first Eli somehow didn’t get sacked and then the receiver caught the ball by holding onto his helmet was one of the best, clutchest plays ever. It should be up there with the Montana-Clarke “The Catch”. Wow. Just wow.  
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Even as a 49er fan I have to agree with you. About even I’d say. It wasn’t a touchdown, but it kept a TD drive going, and it was in the Superbowl.

Oh, and there’s no “e” in Clark.

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**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/214 "2008-02-04T03:55:49Z")

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YEEEHAH! Giants win!!!  
(Actually I’m a Philly fan, but I really wanted to stick it to the Brady Bunch)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/215 "2008-02-04T03:56:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Rilchiam]

ETA: **Diogenes** , WTF are you saying? They only enforced the rules because they’re the rules? And if it’s okay to video signals, just not from the sidelines, then don’t do it from the sidelines.  
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I’m not saying it wasn’t against the rules, I’m just saying it wasn’t “cheating” in the sense that it gave them any unfair advantage.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/216 "2008-02-04T03:58:31Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]  
The long play in the Giants’ last drive when first Eli somehow didn’t get sacked and then the receiver caught the ball by holding onto his helmet was one of the best, clutchest plays ever. It should be up there with the Montana-Clarke “The Catch”. Wow. Just wow.  
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I was lucky enough to catch that play while channel surfing. Unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/217 "2008-02-04T03:58:52Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]  
The long play in the Giants’ last drive when first Eli somehow didn’t get sacked and then the receiver caught the ball by holding onto his helmet was one of the best, clutchest plays ever. It should be up there with the Montana-Clarke “The Catch”. Wow. Just wow.  
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I agree that was the play of the game and one of the best plays at both ends that I can remember seeing in a Superbowl.

I’ve always thought the Montana-Clark play was kind of overrated, though (and that wasn’t even in a Superbowl).

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/218 "2008-02-04T04:00:01Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
They were 18-0 and up against a team that, statistically, they should have ripped apart limb from limb, one of the worst teams - if not absolutely the worst team - to ever appear in a Super Bowl. They led going into the fourth quarter and led with less than a minute left, and they blew it.

Of course the Giants deserved to win, but the Patriots choked, and they choked big time, and deserve to be called chokers. They came out defendinga perfect season, put on a subpar, uninspired effort, STILL had a lead, and blew it. If that ain’t a choke, I don’t know what is.  
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Given the Giants were a distant wildcard spot.

Given the whole de-emphasis on beating the Giants but total emphasis on ‘achieving perfection’.

Given the whole ‘I’m going to stroll around Manhattan in a cast before the game as a goof.’

Given the whole ‘Not only do our teams out-class yours, but our fans out-class yours’ POV of the Herald.

Yeah. That’s a Choke.

Super-size that Karma for you for just 39 cents more…

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/219 "2008-02-04T04:04:01Z")

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My girlfriend, in Boston, says she’s not really mad that the Pats lost the game, so much as disappointed that because of it Wes Welker won’t win MVP, because “he’s so cute.”

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-2008/436129/220 "2008-02-04T04:09:51Z")

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For you disgruntled Patriots fans (and all other interested parties), I have a silver lining for you.

[Bundchen: ‘If the Pats Lose, I’ll Run Naked Through Mid-Town Manhattan’](http://www.sportsline.com/spin/story/10613134)

If she wants to wait until it’s warmer, that’s perfectly OK with me. Of course, if it’s cold out those turkeys will be done better than any ever seen on any Thanksgiving table, so I’m thinking that sometime this week will be good.

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