# Super Bowl LIX - Game Day **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [February 9, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098 "2025-02-09T20:50:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/241 "2025-02-10T10:11:58Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > It has appearances as NFC East with 23, AFC East and AFC West with 21 East, and then NFC West with 17. Easy to forget that the Chiefs and Raiders racked up a lot of AFC titles in the early days. Also easy to forget that the 49ers were a bit of a clown show before Bill Walsh showed up. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/242 "2025-02-10T10:22:26Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Here is a useless stat: when the two teams are not the same seed in the playoffs, the SB team with the higher seed has a record of 17-23 over the history of the game. But, since 2000, the higher-seeded team has been 4-14. At least at a glance, this makes some logical sense. It’s the old adage about getting hot at the right time. If a lower seeded team makes it to the Super Bowl, odds are pretty good that they have been punching above their weight for several games at least. And in some cases, they may have won 8 straight to get into the playoffs after an inconsistent start. Or else they competed in a brutal division all season, getting tested every week. The lower seed also didn’t have the benefit of a bye or a soft matchup the way a 1 or 2 seed might, so they could be more battle hardened. They likely already pulled 1 or 2 massive upsets. That said that 4-14 mark over the last 25 years is well outside of any normal expectation. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/243 "2025-02-10T14:51:21Z")
This game was a comparison of two strategies. The Chiefs focused on Saquon Barkley to stop the Eagles running game. The Eagles focused on Mahomes to stop the Chiefs entire game. That pretty much explains what happened last night. The Eagles chose the better strategy. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/244 "2025-02-10T15:01:41Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > The Chiefs focused on Saquon Barkley to stop the Eagles running game. [![](https://www.pennlive.com/resizer/v2/https%3A%2F%2Fadvancelocal-adapter-image-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fimage.pennlive.com%2Fhome%2Fpenn-media%2Fwidth2048%2Fimg%2Fcapitol-notebook%2Fphoto%2Fchose-poorly-artjpg-0109902e1b8a4680.jpg?auth=b9dfb95da0f642d0d34348bcfbbaa9d0ded7368b5f94a3d9f65dfb28159824c2&width=1280&quality=90) ](https://www.pennlive.com/resizer/v2/https%3A%2F%2Fadvancelocal-adapter-image-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fimage.pennlive.com%2Fhome%2Fpenn-media%2Fwidth2048%2Fimg%2Fcapitol-notebook%2Fphoto%2Fchose-poorly-artjpg-0109902e1b8a4680.jpg?auth=b9dfb95da0f642d0d34348bcfbbaa9d0ded7368b5f94a3d9f65dfb28159824c2&width=1280&quality=90) ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/245 "2025-02-10T15:09:36Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Poor AFC South only has 5 appearances with 2 wins (both the Colts , one back when they were in Baltimore). Is that really a fair comparison though? The Texans are a 2002 expansion team & the Jags only since '95. The Raiders have none & the Broncos only one since the Texans came to be if you compare the AFC South to the AFC west in that time span. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/246 "2025-02-10T15:16:08Z")
indeed. barkley is not the entire eagles offence. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/247 "2025-02-10T15:20:13Z")
I only watched the first half, but I read that the crowd booed Taylor Swift. What was that about? ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/248 "2025-02-10T15:20:57Z")
Politics ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/249 "2025-02-10T15:25:01Z")
Oh, for fuck’s sake. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/250 "2025-02-10T15:36:47Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Is that really a fair comparison though? Yeah, not at all. Just kinda funny, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/251 "2025-02-10T15:51:21Z")
I don’t even think it was politics. The crowd booed the Chiefs as they came out. The crowd was more Eagles fans. Eagles fans have strong football-related opinions and very loud voices. In football world, Taylor Swift represents the other team. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/252 "2025-02-10T15:55:48Z")
That’s a decent way to put it. I’d say it’s even simpler though - the Eagles won the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, but especially when the Chiefs were on offense. One of the lessons of this season has been that a D-line that can generate pressure without blitzing is a top priority. I think they said the Eagles had a 50%+ pressure rate with zero blitzes. That’s insane. I actually think the Chiefs defense performed OK, considering the pressure they were under. Just the one long pass play, which was a great call with the game basically already over. If you take away the 14 points that came directly off turnovers, they gave up 26 points. Not great, but theoretically good enough to make it a close game. The problem (and boy was it a problem) was how unbelievably bad the Chiefs offense did. I can’t figure out why they made no adjustments to handle the pass rush. They called one screen pass that I can remember (it was well-read and didn’t work). At some point in the second half they had called 6 running plays. Really bad coaching job by Reid/Nagy in this one. ETA: Of course you have to caveat any statistical analysis with the fact that so much of the game was garbage time with the Eagles just coasting/eating clock. I’m sure they could have scored more if they needed to. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/253 "2025-02-10T16:01:06Z")
Once the Eagles had a 40-6 lead, I wished they would have sent nothing but nonstop blitzes on defense from that point on, just to fuck with Mahomes. Who cares if you give up three touchdowns, just get several more sacks and ten more knockdowns. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/254 "2025-02-10T16:03:46Z")
For what purpose? I doubt they have the same personal grudge against Mahomes that you or some rando fan might. Seems silly to me and risky for injuries. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/255 "2025-02-10T16:15:34Z")
Yesterday Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker did not score a point. I doubt if that’s ever happened before in a game in which he played. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/256 "2025-02-10T16:15:37Z")
The Chiefs masterfully schemed to stop Barkley and the run and dared Hurts to beat them. He did. The Eagles masterfully schemed to torment Mahomes and dared KC to run on them. They couldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/257 "2025-02-10T16:26:18Z")
Well, the Chiefs got shutout by the Raiders in the last game of the season, so he didn’t score in that one. But yeah, other than that I don’t see any games where he got zero points. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/258 "2025-02-10T17:39:28Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I don’t even think it was politics. The crowd booed the Chiefs as they came out. The crowd was more Eagles fans. Eagles fans have strong football-related opinions and very loud voices. In football world, Taylor Swift represents the other team. Not just representing the other team. She grew up in the greater Philly area, came from an Eagles family, and until quite recently was an Eagles fan herself. We don’t like turncoats. > [@Jasmine](#): > > The Eagles masterfully schemed to torment Mahomes and dared KC to run on them. They couldn’t. Eleven of the first twelve Chiefs plays were passes. Andy Reid forgot what sideline he was on and reverted to his old “What’s a running game” time with the Eagles. He didn’t have the chance to throw in some clock mismanagement for old times’ sake. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/259 "2025-02-10T17:54:24Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Not just representing the other team. She grew up in the greater Philly area, came from an Eagles family, and until quite recently was an Eagles fan herself. We don’t like turncoats Supporting your boyfriend’s team is being a turncoat? Not just the team your boyfriend supports. The team he plays on. Hell I support the college team where my daughter attends. Even when they play against the school I attended. This is normal. Not enough eye-rolls in the world. Are Eagles fans really that dumb? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098/260 "2025-02-10T18:05:34Z")
Seriously? Do you know anything about being an Eagles fan? There’s a secret tunnel from the stadium to a nearby hotel so opposing players can get out of the stadium safely after a game. Ever heard of the Green Man? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-lix-game-day/1014098.md?page=14)