# Super Bowl XLIV: Indianapolis Colts v. New Orleans Saints (2/7/2010) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 25, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375 "2010-01-25T17:01:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/241 "2010-02-08T16:35:57Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Caldwell got outcoached Yeah, I was thinking that the Saints outplayed the Colts on every conceivable level. Payton totally outcoached Caldwell, particularly when he went for it (and failed) on 4th & goal right before the half while Caldwell just gave him the ball back. Great coaching by Payton, awful coaching by Caldwell. Bress clearly outplayed Payton, Saints defense outplayed the Colts defense, and the New Orleans special teams kicked the ever living shit out of the Indy special teams. Just an all-around beatdown, A good friend of mine has been a diehard Bills fan since the 80s. It’s not just the agonizing Superbowl losses – the first of which was by far the most painful – but also consider the last 10 years for a Bills fan, since the uber-painful “Music City Miracle.” It’s just brutal. The only thing a longtime Bills fan has to hang his hat on is the greatest comeback in playoff history. Go Frank Reich! ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/242 "2010-02-08T16:40:17Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Actually, a current pop-country act would be perfect. Not my type of music, but at least it’d be contemporary, safe, and would appeal to the heartland. Someone like Garth Brooks or Kenny Chesney. > > To appeal to me – a 40 year old classic rock fan – my first choice would be Blacked Eyed Peas. Or how about a chick / group? I’d dig seeing Sherryl Crow or Alannis Morisette. Hell, I’ll even take Katy Perry. My only deal-breaker is putting on no-talent hacks, defined as acts who don’t write their own material and/or do that pathetic karaoke/American Idol overly-inflected trill thing. God I hate that shit. > > We’re at the point where a black hip-hop/rap act is a nonstarter, right? Yeah, I think country is probably the way to go. Garth isn’t really doing much nowadays, is he? How about Willie Nelson? Brad Paisley? Faith Hill & Tim McGraw? BEP bore me, and I think you’re in the minority **Ellis** as most football fans in their 40s don’t know any of their songs. Sheryl Crow would have been an excellent choice about 8 years ago. Katy Perry’s appeal would be “sex” and the NFL doesn’t want that, and again, nobody over 35 knows her “music.” If Whitney Houston’s comeback gets on track she could get the nod. I do think that the AI invasion is coming (shudder). Carrie Underwood, Taylor Swift, and - God forbid - Daughtry are waiting in the wings. I don’t think any Black artist in hip-hop is universal enough. Jay-Z and Li’l Wayne don’t have crossover appeal. Actually, maybe Jay-Z with Enimem or Jay-Z with a major rock artist might work. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/243 "2010-02-08T16:48:08Z")
Okay, back to the game itself: you know, the cliche that EVERY opposing coach and EVERY sportscaster always spouts off is “the way to beat the Colts is to keep Peyton Manning off the field.” The snag is, teams have always tried to “keep him off the field” by trying (and failing) repeatedly to establish a power running game, and playing traditional ball control. Drew Brees and Sean Payton accomplished the task WITHOUT running much. They showed that you can control the clock and play ball control and keep the opposing offense off the field by PASSING. A seven yard pass here, a six yard pass there, an eight yard pass there… suddenly, you’re on a 6 minute TD scoring drive and you’ve hardly run the ball at all. Every time they showed Manning on the sidelines, you could see that disgusted look on his face. He was plainly thinking, “Geez, would you guys STOP him just once, so I can get in the game???” His frustration was probably part of what made him get sloppy down the stretch. When you’re not sure you’ll ever get the ball back if you don’t score NOW, you’re liable to get a bit desperate and to try and force some passes you shouldn’t be attempting. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/244 "2010-02-08T16:48:15Z")
Yeah, I think you’re right on all counts. I’d love to see a Jay-Z and whoever halftime show. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/245 "2010-02-08T16:48:31Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > We’re at the point where a black hip-hop/rap act is a nonstarter, right? Maybe if it’s someone like Will Smith. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/246 "2010-02-08T16:50:49Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Drew Brees and Sean Payton accomplished the task WITHOUT running much. They showed that you can control the clock and play ball control and keep the opposing offense off the field by PASSING. It’s still better to do it by running, it’s just that the Saints _couldn’t_ run so they had to do it by passing. Running is better because it lets your OL tee off on the defense, beating them down as the game progressing until by the fourth quarter you can have your way with them. No amount of short passes has that kind of cumulative physical effect because pass blocking is done on your heels backing up, so you can never beat the defense into submission. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/247 "2010-02-08T16:54:42Z")
We’ve already done country haven’t we? Yeah, back in 1994. I don’t think we need to overdo it and have another country-oriented halftime show yet, do we? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/248 "2010-02-08T17:02:40Z")
It’s been ridiculously old since Janet Jackson, though. Excluding Prince, the halftime shows have looks like an AARP newsletter: Paul McCartney Rolling Stones Tom Petty Bruce Springsteen The Who I mean, c’mon already. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/249 "2010-02-08T17:07:30Z")
> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#): > > Yeah, I think country is probably the way to go. Garth isn’t really doing much nowadays, is he? How about Willie Nelson? Brad Paisley? Faith Hill & Tim McGraw? Garth is doing shows in Vegas now, and will probably be touring when his run at the Wynn (?) ends. I’d vote for him or Paisley. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/250 "2010-02-08T17:08:03Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > It’s been ridiculously old since Janet Jackson, though. Excluding Prince, the halftime shows have looks like an AARP newsletter: > > Paul McCartney > Rolling Stones > Tom Petty > Bruce Springsteen > The Who > > I mean, c’mon already. Prince is 52, not spring chicken himself. ---
**Author:** ![Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellis_Aponte_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/251 "2010-02-08T17:20:05Z")
To be frank, I wish they would book some halftime music of the kind that black people like. Which does not include “man-in-hat” -style country music or the Who. I mean, black folks play & watch football too, don’t they? Stevie Wonder, Beyonce, Patti Labelle, Donna Summer (retro but not as retro as the Who), Lionel Richie… any of these would be good. Otherwise, I say bring back Carol Channing from the 1970 show. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/252 "2010-02-08T17:41:51Z")
I could see Beyonce getting the gig. Still, if they’re going to stick with old British acts, why can’t we have Motorhead or Maiden or Judas Priest? They go way better with football. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/253 "2010-02-08T17:48:58Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I’m primarily a Chefs fan [Great Googly-Moogly](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSAXLayoMKI)! > [@Hippy\_Hollow](#): > > Yeah, I think country is probably the way to go. Garth isn’t really doing much nowadays, is he? He attempted a “comeback” a couple years ago. The local country station ran the single from his CD into the ground for a few weeks, and then we never heard anything else and it was back to his old hits. > [@](#): > > I do think that the AI invasion is coming (shudder). Carrie Underwood, Taylor Swift, and - God forbid - Daughtry are waiting in the wings. [Taylor Swift](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_swift) didn’t come from AI. > [@EllisDee](#): > > It’s been ridiculously old since Janet Jackson, though. Excluding Prince, the halftime shows have looks like an AARP newsletter: > > Paul McCartney > Rolling Stones > Tom Petty > Bruce Springsteen > The Who > > I mean, c’mon already. Yeah, those guys were already old when I was in high school, 26 years ago. But Janet Jackson is just one day older than me. ---
**Author:** ![Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellis_Aponte_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/254 "2010-02-08T17:53:10Z")
They could’ve had a New Orleans /Indianapolis musical showdown, with a funky group like the Meters going up against a marching band playing songs from “The Music Man” or something. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/255 "2010-02-08T18:15:53Z")
> [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](#): > > They could’ve had a New Orleans /Indianapolis musical showdown, with a funky group like the Meters going up against a marching band playing songs from “The Music Man” or something. Hey now. “The Music Man” was set in Iowa! Indiana has Mellencamp, the Jackson Five, John Hiatt, David Lee Roth and Axl Rose. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/256 "2010-02-08T18:18:52Z")
> [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](#): > > To be frank, I wish they would book some halftime music of the kind that black people like. Which does not include “man-in-hat” -style country music or the Who. I mean, black folks play & watch football too, don’t they? Black folks comprise about 12% of the audience, so tailoring a halftime show to suit them would be silly. Country music would probably hit the mark for the highest percentage of viewers. If you want to target a minority, women would be the smarter play since tens of millions of women who normally never watch a football game will watch the Superbowl. EDIT: I don’t hate the idea of using acts from the market of the two teams in the game, though. That has some definite appeal. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/257 "2010-02-08T19:15:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I could see Beyonce getting the gig. Still, if they’re going to stick with old British acts, why can’t we have Motorhead or Maiden or Judas Priest? They go way better with football. Judas Priest singing “Screaming For Vengeance” along with “The Ripper”, “Hell Bent For Leather” and “Breaking The Law” in medley would have been pretty sweet… ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/258 "2010-02-08T19:27:04Z")
One of my Facebook "friends’ is say ing the game was a stinker and that he thought both teams played bad. He’s not a close friend. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/259 "2010-02-08T19:34:57Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > So, whether next year’s musical guest is a geriatric British Invasion band, some toothless Motown legend, a cheesy Eighties Hair Band, a country singer with a twenty gallon hat, or even Hannah Montana with the Jonas Brothers, just remind yourself: it COULD have been Anita Bryant! I’m not old enough to remember Anita Bryant, but I _am_ old enough to remember… [Up With People](http://www.upwithpeople.org/). So yeah, it could have been a lot worse than The Who. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375/260 "2010-02-08T19:45:46Z")
I wonder if Jimmy Buffet might get the nod for the halftime show next year? He’s well known to us geezers, reasonably family-friendly, and still touring, I think… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xliv-indianapolis-colts-v-new-orleans-saints-2-7-2010/526375.md?page=14)