# Super Bowl XLVII: Seahawks vs. Broncos

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 20, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248 "2014-01-20T03:17:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/61 "2014-01-27T20:20:31Z")

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Totally agree. Denver is screwed if the weather is bad. Snow storms are a defenses best friend. Seattle has the best defense in the league.

Good weather and Denver has a very good chance of winning.

I’m still hating this decision to play in NJ in the middle of the winter. I like games played in sunny weather where both teams have a fair chance of playing their best game.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/62 "2014-01-27T20:43:20Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Snow storms are a defenses best friend.

Especially when recievers are already worried their heads will get torn off the second the ball touches their fingers–that’s gotta make it hard to concentrate under _good_ conditions. 🙂 God I am so looking forward to this game, whoever wins.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/63 "2014-01-27T21:14:37Z")

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It’ll be a great match up. I’m looking forward to it.

They probably will practice indoors this week because the field is icy.  
[http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/27/indoor-practices-could-be-the-norm-for-outdoor-super-bowl/related/](http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/27/indoor-practices-could-be-the-norm-for-outdoor-super-bowl/related/)

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> Both coaches expressed concerns last night about snow and icy practice fields, which could force them to prepare indoors for an outdoor game.
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> “We’ll look at the fields and test the fields, and we brought our grounds crew people,” Broncos coach John Fox said, via Dan Garziano of [ESPN.com](http://ESPN.com). “I understand the indoor facility is very much like ours, except their field house is completed, which is a big difference. So we may or may not go in there. I’d prefer grass. It saves out players’ legs. But if need be, we’ll go indoors or on their synthetic surface.”
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> The Broncos are practicing at the Jets facility in Florham Park, while the Seahawks are using the Giants facility in East Rutherford.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/64 "2014-01-27T22:19:09Z")

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**ace** -I think this game was awarded to compensate for 9/11. (IOW-League felt sorry for city, wanted throw them a bone)

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/65 "2014-01-27T22:31:27Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> **ace** -I think this game was awarded to compensate for 9/11. (IOW-League felt sorry for city, wanted throw them a bone)

That’s complete nonsense, backed up by absolutely zero evidence. The owners have been contemplating a cold weather, open air Super Bowl for years, and New York is the ideal location to test that theory out, due to the fact that New York City is friggin’ New York City. Add in their new stadium and a shit-ton pile of money that accompanies every Super Bowl bid, and there is absolutely no reason to think that 9/11 ever factored into the equation, let alone as the sole pity factor (especially NINE years down the line - any “compensation” NYC needed from professional sports regarding 9/11 dissipated a month later when they had all eyes turn their direction for the World Series). There is very little evidence that a Super Bowl contributes a net gain for the host city in economic benefit, so what could New York gain from a “9/11 pity vote”? NYC had a ton of money to throw at the bid, at any potential contingency plan in case of severe weather, and had little to do in the way of developing the infrastructure needed (i.e. hotel rooms, transportation, etc.).

“Felt sorry for them”? Right - the NFL hasn’t done a thing in the last 13 years for New York, and felt sorry for them. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/66 "2014-01-27T23:02:34Z")

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SBs are awarded several years out!

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/67 "2014-01-27T23:10:04Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> SBs are awarded several years out!

The game was [awarded](http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5219486) to New York less than four years ago.

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> The New Meadowlands Stadium, the $1.6 billion jewel co-owned by the New York Giants and Jets, will host the 2014 Super Bowl, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell announced Tuesday afternoon at the league’s spring meeting.
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> “It’s a historic moment for the league,” Goodell said.
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> Saying that New York is a unique market, Goodell added: “It will be a great experience for our fans. It will be a great experience for the NFL.”

The only mention of 9-11 came from New York’s mayor.

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> “America came to the rescue of New York, and that’s something I think that New Yorkers have never forgotten,” Bloomberg said. “This is a little bit of our chance to say thank you.”

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/68 "2014-01-27T23:10:16Z")

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It’s still 6 days away, but the weather is looking just about perfect in football terms. High of 40 dropping to 34 at game time and down to 28 by the end. Plus almost no wind.

That said, I still think this Seattle defense will shut down the Denver offense. Manning is not mobile outside the pocket and I just don’t think that Denver has enough options. After playing San Francisco and the Kaepernick run threat, it will be like Seattle is playing with an extra man.

The only chance I see for Denver is if Seattle turns the ball over. That would change everything.

My prediction: \*\* Seattle 23, Denver 16 \*\*

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/69 "2014-01-27T23:26:20Z")

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TY Frank. I knew I wasn’t pulling the the idea of paying NY back outta my ass, I just reversed it.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/70 "2014-01-28T02:05:11Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> TY Frank. I knew I wasn’t pulling the the idea of paying NY back outta my ass, I just reversed it.

No. Frank showed that you actually _were_ pulling the idea outta your ass.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/71 "2014-01-28T02:24:22Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> That said, I still think this Seattle defense will shut down the Denver offense. Manning is not mobile outside the pocket and I just don’t think that Denver has enough options.

How many options does one team need? They have the #1 rated offense in the league. Demaryius Thomas was the #4 WR in yardage, Eric Decker was #12, and Wes Welker caught 73 balls and missed 3 games. They have Julius Thomas who caught 65 passes, and 12 touchdowns. They have 2 running backs who average more than 4 ypc, including 1,000 yard rusher Knowshon Moreno. How many weapons does it take to be “enough” for you?

> [@Jackknifed Juggernaut](#):
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> After playing San Francisco and the Kaepernick run threat, it will be like Seattle is playing with an extra man.

San Francisco’s offense were the 24th rated offense in the league, with a QB who had 2 300 yard games all year and 10 games with less than 200 yards passing. Comparing them to Denver is just silly.

Don’t get me wrong, Seattle’s defense is quite good. But outside of the Saints, they haven’t faced all that great of offenses either.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/72 "2014-01-28T03:42:06Z")

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I disagree. He showed I heard it somewhere, just misinterpreted/misremembered.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/73 "2014-01-28T05:52:55Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> How many options does one team need? They have the #1 rated offense in the league…
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> Don’t get me wrong, Seattle’s defense is quite good. But outside of the Saints, they haven’t faced all that great of offenses either.

TBCF, Denver had a pretty soft schedule themselves. They played the saddest excuse for a division the NFC had to offer, almost losing to the lamentable cowboys, and the weakest division in the AFC, losing to the Colts, their best team (who also squeaked past Seattle). The only upper-tier teams they played were KC, SD and NE, which is pretty comparable to Seattle’s schedule. These may be the two most closely matched SB teams in a long age.

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**Author:** ![GreenElf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@GreenElf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenElf)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/74 "2014-01-28T07:31:36Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> The only chance I see for Denver is if Seattle turns the ball over. That would change everything.

Like Wilson did on the first play of the last game? Or Lynch on the touchdown attempt? Hey, they still won. 😛

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/75 "2014-01-28T15:50:16Z")

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Of all the terrible justifications for picking a Super Bowl winner, this one takes the cake so far. This was sent to me in an e-mail from _Pensions & Investments_ magazine, so I don’t have a link:

\*Commercial real estate firm and money manager Jones Lang LaSalle says the Denver Broncos will win Super Bowl XLVIII this Sunday.

The firm and Roger Staubach, its Americas executive chairman, made the announcement on Monday based on the overall office vacancy rate in Denver, which stands at 13.9%, compared to the office vacancy rate of 12.5% in Seattle, home of the Seahawks, the Broncos’ opponent in the big game.

According to the firm’s research of the last 13 super bowls, teams from a city with a higher office vacancy rate win the Super Bowl 62% of the time…\*

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/76 "2014-01-28T21:33:46Z")

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OMFG! It is just ridiculous here in Denver. Some radio homers were talking about the matchup and I don’t think anyone doubts that Manning vs Seahawk secondary is going to be tough on both sides. These idiots claim that the matchup practically guaranties a Bronco victory because having Manning pass is exactly what you do to counter the Seahawk #1 defense. I mean I know I’m a Seahawk fan but does anyone really think that Manning’s wobbly duck passes are how you pick apart the Seattle defense? Didn’t they see how anytime a runner got past the Seattle linebackers it was a 30+ yard gain? How is playing to the Seahawk strength such a huge plus for your team?

According to the sportscasters here  
Denver 762 Seattle -12  
Denver 448 Hurricane Manning 6

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/77 "2014-01-28T23:31:48Z")

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Lets see if the weather man or a woman (on ABC that is) can predict the weather for the Super Bowl accurately?

It is now raining here on the west coast, after one of the most dry seasons in California history, and the wind is blowing easterly, plus it is late Tuesday afternoon January 28th with the prediction of 32 to 37 degrees for the Super Bowl weather in New Jersey on a late Sunday NFL super Bowl game.

How long will it take this rain storm to get to other side of the United States?

Plus the weatherman said it will rain here on the west coast Wednesday and early Thursday too.

Duh :smack: I think it’s going be snow or at least cold rain called slush at least after halftime.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/78 "2014-01-28T23:57:36Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> How long will it take this rain storm to get to other side of the United States?

Left-coast weather does not make it “to the other side”, a thousand miles of high, mountainous terrain sees to that. New York gets most of its weather from the same place as Grand Forks this time of year: Nunavut and NWT.

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/79 "2014-01-29T04:49:41Z")

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Lynch [speaks](http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/1/28/5354480/marshawn-lynch-wins-super-bowl-media-day).

Enough said.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-seahawks-vs-broncos/679248/80 "2014-01-29T05:27:57Z")

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> [@Oly](#):
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> Lynch [speaks](http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/1/28/5354480/marshawn-lynch-wins-super-bowl-media-day).
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> Enough said.

He’s going to have to prove it against a recently improved Denver defense, whom nobody is talking about. If Denver can take Lynch out of the game and put it on the shoulders of Wilson, it’s going to be a tough row to hoe for the Seahawks.

People keep talking about “NUMBER ONE DEFENSE VERSUS NUMBER ONE OFFENSE” and I am not certain the game will be broken down that way all the time. I think the Seahawks offense is pedestrian and the Broncos defense is underrated.

Hopefully it will be at least a great game…no blowout!

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