# Super Bowl XLVII Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 3, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249 "2013-02-03T20:16:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/261 "2013-02-04T04:37:22Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I sure do hope Ray Lewis gets the proper sendoff for the end of his career. He’s a good Christian man who has kids by 4 different women. God’s linebacker. As Jesus said “Turn the other shiv, and rid yourself of bloody suits”. He deserves this.

I have been quoting this all evening. Do you mind if I put it on fb? Attributed to “one of my internet friends.”

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/262 "2013-02-04T04:39:09Z")

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Well, at least Harbaugh the Greater Douche didn’t win. Not like there is much to celebrate that Harbaugh the Lesser Douche did.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/263 "2013-02-04T04:41:09Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> I have been quoting this all evening. Do you mind if I put it on fb? Attributed to “one of my internet friends.”

Go nuts.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/264 "2013-02-04T04:44:24Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> You realize you’re living up to the reputation of Ravens’ fans.

Just as Steeler fans live up to their rep. Big Ben just settled his lawsuit on his first alleged rape (I’m wrong, it was a year ago). Ray was never convicted of murder but Ben paid off on the lawsuit for the first one he was accused of. He got totally off on the other two.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/265 "2013-02-04T04:54:56Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> You all were right to tune out Stabbing Ray. His ode to Jesus was sickening, especially since he’s such a phony.

I just came in here to say, “Fuck Ray Lewis.” That is all.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/266 "2013-02-04T04:59:51Z")

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Didn’t the safety swing the betting?

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/267 "2013-02-04T05:06:44Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Didn’t the safety swing the betting?

Pissed the fuck out of the squares players in my bar 😉

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/268 "2013-02-04T05:07:42Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Didn’t the safety swing the betting?

Not the standard line, 49ers were favored.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/269 "2013-02-04T05:16:39Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Didn’t the safety swing the betting?

Not really. Except for football pools. I’m here in Vegas right now. The line on the game was +4 for the 49ers. So the money line bet of course didn’t change. With the points the 9ers needed to win by 4. Didn’t change the over under either. It was well into the over.  
I’m a Giants fan so I really didn’t care much about who won. (Ok full disclosure I bet the 9ers and lost but I also bet there would be a safety and a special teams touchdown so I broke even). Two non calls at the end were terrible. It was completely obvious that there was holding on the defense. And the play before it was helmet to helmet on a defenseless receiver. They called that every time it happened during the season but nothing here. On top of that during the scrum earlier Williams put both hands on an official and shoved. I have never seen that happen and there not be a penalty and ejection. You can’t let players do that. Badly officiated game.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/270 "2013-02-04T05:17:28Z")

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Forgot the Niners were favored.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/271 "2013-02-04T05:32:49Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Didn’t the safety swing the betting?

Not the line, but Bill Barnwell is probably sobbing in his drink over losing the “will there be a safety” bet for the second time in a row.

([Context.](http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8889349/bill-barnwell-prop-bets#))

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/272 "2013-02-04T05:37:05Z")

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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> Not the line, but Bill Barnwell is probably sobbing in his drink over losing the “will there be a safety” bet for the second time in a row.
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> ([Context.](http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8889349/bill-barnwell-prop-bets#))

I don’t know where he got that line and when. I wish it was +900. When I placed the bet it was +400.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/273 "2013-02-04T05:53:30Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> San Francisco deserved to lose. As impressive as the comeback was, they screwed up. A lot.

This is a terrible argument. It was a 3 point game, both teams played very similarly and you are implying that the Ravens mistakes are somehow less pertinent than the 49ers mistakes. The 49ers probably should have won this game going away, but they made some mistakes and got a lot of bad breaks. So you’re either saying that a far less talented team in the Ravens deserved to win or the mistakes they made which kept it close aren’t demerits.

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> Even the non-call probably didn’t matter; it was an awful play, badly executed. If the hold doesn’t happen, you still can’t catch that ball and stay in bounds.

Tell Santonio Holmes that.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/274 "2013-02-04T05:55:04Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Only because Rapelisberger’s trained posse cut Rapelisberger and his victim off from her friends, just to make sure there weren’t any witnesses around, so it would be her word against his.
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> Screw the courts and the rules of evidence. Your QB is a rapist with a M.O.

Just for the record, Homicide \>\> Date Rape.

Both guys are scumbags, but you don’t have a leg to stand on here.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/275 "2013-02-04T05:55:50Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I don’t know where he got that line and when. I wish it was +900. When I placed the bet it was +400.

Wait, you bet that there WOULD be a safety, and got only 4-1 odds on your money? Ouch, that’s a godawful bet, regardless of the result.  
FWIW, I didn’t see any kind of mandatory defensive penalty at the end of the game. Sometimes they call that DPI, but also sometimes they don’t, and in any event I thought the pass was uncatchable (literally don’t think he could have caught it and gotten two feet in bounds even if there was no defender there). And Akers wasn’t touched on his running-into-the-kicker penalty: he just flopped.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/276 "2013-02-04T05:56:45Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Just for the record, Homicide \>\> Date Rape.
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> Both guys are scumbags, but you don’t have a leg to stand on here.

And double homicide is double badder.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/277 "2013-02-04T06:01:31Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> Wait, you bet that there WOULD be a safety, and got only 4-1 odds on your money? Ouch, that’s a godawful bet, regardless of the result.  
> FWIW, I didn’t see any kind of mandatory defensive penalty at the end of the game. Sometimes they call that DPI, but also sometimes they don’t, and in any event I thought the pass was uncatchable (literally don’t think he could have caught it and gotten two feet in bounds even if there was no defender there). And Akers wasn’t touched on his running-into-the-kicker penalty: he just flopped.

Well they certainly wouldn’t give 4/1 that there wasn’t going to be a safety. And no it wasn’t a bad bet. We take prop bets to have a little more fun while watching the game. It’s not like I put big money on it. It’s all crap shoot anyway (which I won 2 years in a row). I also put money on their being a 2 point conversion. Pissed they didn’t score on that.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/278 "2013-02-04T06:15:23Z")

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That safety play was interesting, in that the players can hold silk day long and all that happens is more time ticks off the clock even though a penalty is called.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/279 "2013-02-04T06:21:54Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Well they certainly wouldn’t give 4/1 that there wasn’t going to be a safety. And no it wasn’t a bad bet. We take prop bets to have a little more fun while watching the game.

True enough, and almost every prop bet is going to be a “bad bet,” strictly speaking. But those particular odds strike me as prohibitively bad. I’d rather have my fun with wagers where I bet $5 and expect to get $4 back on average, instead of ones where I bet $5 and only get $1 back.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-bowl-xlvii-thread/649249/280 "2013-02-04T10:01:20Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> True enough, and almost every prop bet is going to be a “bad bet,” strictly speaking.

Speaking of prop bets… what was the over/under on “number of helmets to come off during play”? 'Cause it went _waaaaaay_ over. Damn! I’ve never seen that many helmets fly off in a football game! Must be a record.

There are all kinds of wacky props, but I don’t think helmet loss is one of them. It should be. Maybe next year.

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