# Super-hero movies have gotten so pervasive they've created a new trivia topic:

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**Created:** [March 2, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-hero-movies-have-gotten-so-pervasive-theyve-created-a-new-trivia-topic/809872 "2018-03-02T04:56:57Z")\
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“Acting legends seen together only in a movie wayyyyy below them.”

And it doesn’t have to be a super-hero movie…but they provide golden opportunities.

Of course ‘legend’ is subjective but:

Sam Rockwell\* and Mickey Rourke together INNNNNNNN…Iron Man 2??

“It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad World” of course had a lot of famous actors. But I don’t know if any had scenes together you wouldn’t otherwise find elsewhere.

I guess disaster movies would be fertile ground for this as well.

Don’t think Steve McQueen and Paul Newman had any other scenes together except in Towering Inferno.

\*I guess by legend i mean utterly fantastic.

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Anthony Hopkins and Natalie Portman in _Thor: The Dark World_.

Kenneth Brannagh, Maggie Smith, Richard Harris, Alan Rickman, and John Cleese in _Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets_.

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That’s not something that only started with the Marvel Studios era of superhero movies, is it? “Money, Dear Boy,” got some legends into some very silly movies long before.

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> That’s not something that only started with the Marvel Studios era of superhero movies, is it? “Money, Dear Boy,” got some legends into some very silly movies long before.

It’s not ‘legends who appear in silly movies’ but legends that only worked together once and actually have a scene together…and that movie was silly.

It’s also exacerbated by the Marvel formula of casting a great elder actor in the mentor roles.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-hero-movies-have-gotten-so-pervasive-theyve-created-a-new-trivia-topic/809872/5 "2018-03-02T10:33:07Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> That’s not something that only started with the Marvel Studios era of superhero movies, is it? “Money, Dear Boy,” got some legends into some very silly movies long before.

To quote Michael Cain when talking about his role in Jaws 4 (paraphrasing):

“I haven’t seen it and by all accounts it’s terrible, but I have seen the house it built and it’s terrific.”

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> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> To quote Michael Cain when talking about his role in Jaws 4 (paraphrasing):
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> “I haven’t seen it and by all accounts it’s terrible, but I have seen the house it built and it’s terrific.”

Michael Caine and Donald Sutherland would appear in just about anything you paid them for. At the end of his life, when he was getting together money for his family, Laurence Olivier would take just about any role (and I loved him in _Clash of the Titans_, made during this period).

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Let’s not be elitist. If _Iron Man_ or _Thor_ is the worst movie in your resume, you’re having a great career. Selling out is when you start doing movies like _The Love Guru_ or _Jack and Jill_ or _Postal_ or _Dirty Grandpa_ (and all of those films had an Oscar winner in them)

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> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> To quote Michael Cain when talking about his role in Jaws 4 (paraphrasing):
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> “I haven’t seen it and by all accounts it’s terrible, but I have seen the house it built and it’s terrific.”

Also (allegedly) by Caine on how he takes movies roles:

“I look at the first page, and I look at the last page, and if my character is in both, I do the effing film”

Lord knows if either of these quotes are true, but god they’re great if they are.

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Let’s not be elitist. If _Iron Man_ or _Thor_ is the worst movie in your resume, you’re having a great career. Selling out is when you start doing movies like _The Love Guru_ or _Jack and Jill_ or _Postal_ or _Dirty Grandpa_ (and all of those films had an Oscar winner in them)

Don’t forget **Snow Dogs**.

It stars Cuba Gooding, Jr. _and_ James Coburn.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-hero-movies-have-gotten-so-pervasive-theyve-created-a-new-trivia-topic/809872/10 "2018-03-02T20:32:42Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Let’s not be elitist. If _Iron Man_ or _Thor_ is the worst movie in your resume, you’re having a great career. Selling out is when you start doing movies like _The Love Guru_ or _Jack and Jill_ or _Postal_ or _Dirty Grandpa_ (and all of those films had an Oscar winner in them)

Good point but…they are still a tad silly. And yes i like them both greatly.

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Don’t think Steve McQueen and Paul Newman had any other scenes together except in Towering Inferno.

[Here](https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/b4XccQ4ZZ4TI73dZxr1P10SVgeh.jpg) are Newman and McQueen together in **Somebody Up There Likes Me** 18 years before _Inferno_.

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John Wayne and Oliver Hardy in the same scene in _How the West was Won_.

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Ooh, I get to trot out the movie that I watched with my kids a thousand times, then another hundred with my sunday school kids:

[_ **RAT RACE** _](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bRUdtiXxKM)

It’s a dumb (yet funny) remake of \*Mad Mad Mad Mad World. \*  
Full of Oscar nominees (and winners!), and other too-good-for-this-farce actors: Kathy Bates, Whoopie Goldberg, Cuba Gooding Jr, Jon Lovitz, John Cleese…

… and where else can you see Rowan Atkinson playing a narcoleptic Italian opposite Wayne Knight?

[“Do you know what we’re transporting?” “Ass! You said we are hauling ASS…” “No…”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO2iEFXSMqs)

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IMHO [Murder By Death](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074937/?ref_=nv_sr_1) was neither funny nor clever, despite the presence of Alec Guinness, Elsa Lanchester, David Niven, Peter Sellers, Maggie Smith and several others.

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Good point but…they are still a tad silly. And yes i like them both greatly.

Then why single out super hero movies as being “wayyyyy below” an Oscar winner? Not every movie is going to be _The Remains of the Day_ or _Black Swan_. Sometimes a great actor makes a movie like _The Wolfman_ or _Red 2_ or _Your Highness_ or _Jane Got a Gun_.

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Then why single out super hero movies as being “wayyyyy below” an Oscar winner? Not every movie is going to be _The Remains of the Day_ or _Black Swan_. Sometimes a great actor makes a movie like _The Wolfman_ or _Red 2_ or _Your Highness_ or _Jane Got a Gun_.

Nemo.

Iron Man 2 got Mickey Rourke to swing some bullwhips, and argue with Sam Rockwell about a cockatoo. It was silly. Getting Mickey Rourke to play Whiplash is like using a piledriver to hammer a nail.

I look forward to Gene Hackman or Sean Connery coming out of retirement to play Jarvis.(The real Jarvis)…ok that would be cool but still.

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Groucho Marx and George Raft in _Skidoo_ (1968) - Though the only scene they share is via telescreen (and it’s kind of a stretch to call Raft an “acting legend.”) Lots of other thespian “legends” - not including Frankie Avalon - in the cast as well who should have known better.

Stacy Keach and Ursula Andress in _Slave of the Cannibal God_ (1978)

James Mason, Curd Jurgens, Stephen Boyd and Jean Seberg in the charmingly titled _Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill!_ (1971)

Brando & Depp in _The Brave_ (1997)  
Brando & Kilmer in _The Island of Dr. Moreau_ (1996)  
Brando & Dunaway in _Don Juan DeMarco_ (1994)

Tony Curtis and everyone else in _The Manitou_ (1977)

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Heck, some would say that if you’re doing nothing but movies like _Dirty Grandpa_ and _Snow Dogs_, you’re still having a great career. Steady work is steady work.

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> IMHO [Murder By Death](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074937/?ref_=nv_sr_1) was neither funny nor clever, despite the presence of Alec Guinness, Elsa Lanchester, David Niven, Peter Sellers, Maggie Smith and several others.

It had its moments.

Not many, to be sure.

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**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-hero-movies-have-gotten-so-pervasive-theyve-created-a-new-trivia-topic/809872/20 "2018-03-03T05:14:43Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Heck, some would say that if you’re doing nothing but movies like _Dirty Grandpa_ and _Snow Dogs_, you’re still having a great career. Steady work is steady work.

True true.

And good call, great call in the spirit of my point on Island of Dr. Moreau.

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