# Super monsoon storm in Phoenix **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 8, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865 "2014-09-08T14:17:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865/21 "2014-09-12T03:20:17Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > what **Morgyn** said, and indeed, it has been very dry, here is a bit from the last report from August from the University of Arizona: > > [http://www.climas.arizona.edu/swco/aug-2014/southwest-climate-outlook-august-2014](http://www.climas.arizona.edu/swco/aug-2014/southwest-climate-outlook-august-2014) > As we are a desert we had an advantage as over here there are a lot of projects going on to save water and more infrastructure to deal with dry conditions. IIUC the state is also noticeable on ignoring many climate change deniers by not stopping ongoing projects to deal with the issue today and in the future. There will be more underground reservoirs that are or will keep a lot of water from events like the one we passed through. > > Eventually we will need to discourage the wide use of pools and lawns though, getting rid of mine has saved me a lot on the water bill. Do you have a water catchment tank? Mine holds 10,000 gallons. Rain water flows off the roof into gutters that fill the tank. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865/22 "2014-09-12T20:32:51Z")
[Odile](http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/east-pacific/2014/tropical-storm-Odile) is the next tropical system moving up off the coast of Mexico. Expect some spin-off of its moisture in a week+. The eastern Pacific has been unusually [active](http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2794) this season. (Scroll down.) Get used to the rain. (“Odile”. Anyone else thinking about _Day For Night_. Oh, well.) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865/23 "2014-09-13T04:06:52Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > That’s not the issue. > The problem is the overpasses - the freeway dips below grade to allow for the overpasses, and all that water overwhelms the drains, which inevitably get clogged with debris. > > [Here](https://www.flickr.com/photos/11822576@N08/14999463228/) is a photo I took this morning of a normally dry “wash” that’s near my house. This runs through a golf course, like many other washes (arroyo) do out here. What’s that pink thing one picture over 😕 ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865/24 "2014-09-13T04:26:42Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > What’s that pink thing one picture over 😕 You tell me: > **[Help ID this bizarre, creepy object found in Mesa, AZ (paging Colibri?)](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=731406)** > > This alien-looking object was found in Mesa, AZ. It was originally identified as the gall of a Urchin Wasp, but I think those are much too small - this was maybe 3" across. I’m assuming it’s natural, but I suppose it could be man-made. (best guess - a spiky glove) ---
**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865/25 "2014-09-13T12:22:00Z")
> [@Bookkeeper](#): > > It seems that it would have been smarter to raise the overpasses. Prohibitively expensive. This is a BIG city with LOTS of crossing streets. Much cheaper to build on grade or below. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865/26 "2014-09-16T21:34:23Z")
Odile’s remnants falling on saturated ground could make it worse than the last one. The fun stuff starts tomorrow. Now there’s a new Tropical Storm, Polo, following closely in Odile’s path. Polo should be a hurricane by Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865/27 "2014-09-16T22:04:37Z")
What’s left of Odile is supposed to arrive in the Albuquerque area on Thursday. That last storm you guys had missed us. Southern NM has already received an inch of rain today and the heavy stuff isn’t here yet. Hadn’t heard about Polo. Hurricanes in the desert. It’s the end of the world as we know it. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865/28 "2014-09-17T02:43:40Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > I thought there was an enormous drought out West? Not in Arizona? In a drought situation one would think everyone would welcome heavy rains. Just because a monsoon storm drops rain does not mean the drought is over. The Pacific Northwest has been in a drought for ten years (and still going) despite the rain it receives. A couple of years ago a climatologist said for the PNW to be over the drought it would have to mist rain 24/7/365 for about two years straight. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-monsoon-storm-in-phoenix/697865.md?page=1)