# Super Personas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 10, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788 "2014-07-10T20:19:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jim\_Bow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@Jim\_Bow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Bow)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/1 "2014-07-10T20:19:56Z")

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I can only come up with two people who rose to almost absolute international fame, outside of the entertainment or political arenas.

Although both became politicised during or after their rise to fame.

Charles Lindbergh and Mohammed Ali.

Any others?

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/2 "2014-07-10T20:22:58Z")

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Edmund Hillary

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/3 "2014-07-10T20:29:58Z")

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Ali doesn’t count. Professional sports is a form of entertainment.

What about Freud or Curie? Or Nobel?

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/4 "2014-07-10T20:31:03Z")

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Gautama Buddha  
Jesus Christ

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/5 "2014-07-10T20:34:10Z")

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Jesus Christ was arguably a political figure.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/6 "2014-07-10T20:36:47Z")

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Albert Einstein  
Neil Armstrong

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/7 "2014-07-10T20:36:53Z")

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Dr. Jonas Salk  
Pele (a soccer player I have heard of must be pretty famous)  
Neil Armstrong

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/8 "2014-07-10T20:43:35Z")

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Charles Darwin  
Issac Newton  
Christopher Columbus

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/9 "2014-07-10T20:52:04Z")

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Benjamin Franklin  
Thomas Edison  
Steve Jobs  
Bill Gates  
Warren Buffet

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/10 "2014-07-10T21:37:38Z")

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Could possibly be considered political figures, but not politicians per se:

Mother Teresa  
Mahatma Gandhi  
Dalai Lama  
Martin Luther King, Jr.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/11 "2014-07-10T22:11:58Z")

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In general, any world-famous scientist (past or present, depending on who the OP wants to count), e.g. Newton or Galileo or Archimedes, etc.

And any world-famous artist, like Michelangelo or Rembrandt or Salvador Dali or even Andy Warhol. I’d exclude performing artists because they fall into the “entertainment” bucket. (One might consider painter-artists likewise or not.)

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/12 "2014-07-11T05:32:40Z")

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Was Amelia Earhart internationally known?  
Hellen Keller  
Anne Frank

Any internationally famous criminals? Al Capone?

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/13 "2014-07-11T05:58:50Z")

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Outside of entertainment or political arenas: and internationally recognized?

The Pope  
The Dalai Lama  
The prophet Mohammed  
Osama bin Laden  
Yuri Gagarin  
ETA: Removed Helen Keller due to **ZipperJJ** ninja while I was contemplating.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/14 "2014-07-11T06:27:53Z")

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How about Robert Baden-Powell? Being that his Scouting movement went across the pond from England to America, and he was also part of the whole British Imperialist thing, his name got around a lot of the world.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/15 "2014-07-11T14:55:27Z")

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Einstein, Edison, Hawking, Tesla (posthumously), Ford, the Wrights (the Brothers and Frank Lloyd), Galileo, Copernicus.  
Jack the Ripper, Jesse James. Blackbeard the Pirate (Edward Teach), Oswald…  
Marco Polo, Amerigo Vespucci, Lewis and Clark.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/16 "2014-07-11T15:06:22Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Jesus Christ was arguably a political figure.

Not to mention fictitious.

> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Outside of entertainment or political arenas: and internationally recognized?
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> The Pope  
> The Dalai Lama  
> The prophet Mohammed  
> Osama bin Laden  
> Yuri Gagarin  
> ETA: Removed Helen Keller due to **ZipperJJ** ninja while I was contemplating.

Bin Laden was arguably political.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/17 "2014-07-11T15:49:54Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> Einstein, Edison, Hawking, Tesla (posthumously), Ford, the Wrights (the Brothers and Frank Lloyd), Galileo, Copernicus.  
> Jack the Ripper, Jesse James. Blackbeard the Pirate (Edward Teach), Oswald…  
> Marco Polo, Amerigo Vespucci, Lewis and Clark.

Any non-Americans who can comment on whether Lewis and Clark are well known internationally? I’ve never thought about that.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/18 "2014-07-11T15:58:08Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Any non-Americans who can comment on whether Lewis and Clark are well known internationally? I’ve never thought about that.

I know Lewis and Clark, but I’m right next door. I would bet that Jack the Ripper, Jesse James. Blackbeard the Pirate (Edward Teach), Oswald, Marco Polo, and Amerigo Vespucci are also not internationally recognized. The world’s a big place.

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**Author:** ![CheshireKat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheshirekat/32/1207_2.png) [@CheshireKat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheshireKat)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/19 "2014-07-11T16:14:11Z")

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Disney

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-personas/692788/20 "2014-07-11T16:33:11Z")

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I’m pretty sure Disney was involved in entertainment.

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