# Super-Talented Not Appreciated **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 10, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998 "2019-09-10T17:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DaveRaver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daveraver/32/1078_2.png) [@DaveRaver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveRaver)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/21 "2019-09-12T01:07:04Z")
Happy Rhodes! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R8pgPChsJs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R8pgPChsJs) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/22 "2019-09-12T01:08:17Z")
I was gonna miss the edit window, but that first link in **lisiate** ’s post was to Mr. Yoder performing Tears For Fears’ _Everybody Wants To Rule The World_ in his backyard. The ETA link I posted is to Mr. Yoder performing Tears For Fears’ _Everybody Wants To Rule The World_ in his backyard with Tears For Fears! ---
**Author:** ![kirkrapine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/23 "2019-09-12T01:22:09Z")
How many drummers does it take to change a light bulb? None! They have a machine that can do that now! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/24 "2019-09-12T10:49:53Z")
[Moderating] **kirkrapine** , was that meant to be in some other thread? Because I can’t see how it’s remotely relevant here. ---
**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/25 "2019-09-12T11:57:20Z")
> [@kirkrapine](#): > > How many drummers does it take to change a light bulb? > > None! They have a machine that can do that now! Those aren’t drums! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/26 "2019-09-12T12:21:10Z")
I always find it odd when I look up some actor on IMDb and find out that I’ve been watching them for years without realizing it. It happened with **Eli Wallach** and **Tasha Martel**. Wallach was amazing as Tuco in _The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly_, but he could clean up and play an insurance agent or a judge. Martel played T’Pring (Spock’s fiancee) in _Star Trek_, and she was also in _Demon with a Glass Hand_ on _The Outer Limits_ and dozens of guest roles back in the '60s and '70s. I’ve always wondered if the best compliment you can give an actor is to say that you didn’t recognize them. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/27 "2019-09-12T13:19:30Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I always find it odd when I look up some actor on IMDb and find out that I’ve been watching them for years without realizing it. All the Tom Hardys of this world… ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/28 "2019-09-12T13:36:01Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > You think it’s technique alone? They have written memorable songs. Vai and Satriani have a loyal fan base and have been putting out records for many years. > > They just play in a genre that is not mainstream. Instrumental guitar music is not for everybody. And popular does not always equal good. Steve Morse is IMHO the best guitar player in the world. After being voted by Guitar Player magazine best overall guitar player in the world enough times that they had to retire him and after putting out multiple albums with the Dregs he left music to become a commercial airline pilot. Thankfully he was able to come back and get some good paying gigs and pursue his own music as well. Despite some severe tendonitis issues he is still fantastic. I saw him on the Dregs reunion tour and I’m seeing Flying Colors next month. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/29 "2019-09-12T14:11:28Z")
[quote=“bobot, post:9, topic:839998”] Musically, there’s this fella named Chris Smither that (almost) no one knows about. Boy, he’s good! And good news: Now you all know! 🙂 [/QUOTE] This is a great example! Being a guitar “player” (kindof), I appreciate when musicians put up pages like this one that Chris put up: > **[Guitar Tunings - Chris Smither](https://smither.com/etc/guitar-tunings/)** > > Here is a list of of tunings of songs Chris performs (not a complete list of Chris’ catalog). Note: \* indicates that the song was covered by Chris but was not written by him. All We Need to Know D Minor Already Gone (Flatfoot Blues) Standard Tuning A... He uses a lot of different tunings, so it is nice to have this reference. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/30 "2019-09-12T15:03:40Z")
Cyndi Lauper should have received the accolades heaped on Madonna. I think Cyndi was and still is the more talented individual. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/31 "2019-09-12T15:17:47Z")
Trivia note: Cyndi Lauper is the only woman to date to receive the Best Score Tony all by her lonesome. She wrote the songs for Kinky Boots all by herself with no help from anyone, male or female, and got the Tony for it. So there. Theatre always recognizes real talent. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/32 "2019-09-12T15:20:44Z")
And she did it all while suffering from [the heartbreak of psoriasis](https://ispot.tv/a/dTq1)! ---
**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/33 "2019-09-13T00:23:40Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > And she did it all while suffering from [the heartbreak of psoriasis](https://ispot.tv/a/dTq1)! Christ, you don’t know the meaning of heartbreak, buddy, 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/34 "2019-09-13T01:17:18Z")
Doug Stanhope is a pretty well respected comedian. His comedy isn’t really mainstream but he is one of the best comedians working right now. However when he does shows he usually only sells a few hundred tickets per show. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/35 "2019-09-13T03:19:08Z")
Townes VanZandt. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/36 "2019-09-13T08:27:06Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Doug Stanhope is a pretty well respected comedian. His comedy isn’t really mainstream but he is one of the best comedians working right now. However when he does shows he usually only sells a few hundred tickets per show. Agree, and I’d put Stewart Lee on that level as well. Stanhope scares me in the way that he seems to think in complete, coherent comedy paragraphs…even while rat-arsed. He’s like a comedy Hitchens. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/37 "2019-09-13T08:46:21Z")
Danny Gatton was considered by some to be among the finest guitar players in the world. He had virtually no popular acclaim. He was the house band for a small-sh DC nightclub called Club Soda. He was Django Reinhart-level brilliant, but instead of French jazz, he played country/rock and was over the heads of his live audiences. He killed himself the same year Kurt Cobain did. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/38 "2019-09-13T11:39:25Z")
Garry Wills is the best writer on American politics and history and has been for decades. It’s not that he’s completely unappreciated (since his material still occasionally appears in _The New York Review of Books_), but he should be more generally known. He’s 85 years old now and has slowed down in his writing. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/39 "2019-09-13T11:59:45Z")
I’m not sure if this fits the requirements of the OP, but an argument can be made that **Paul Revere & The Raiders** were highly underrated and (even more so) underappreciated. [Here](https://web.musicaficionado.com/main.html?utm_source=transactional&utm_campaign=shared-by-email%40musicaficionado.com&utm_medium=email&fbclid=IwAR2Yi34NVKId8XuXW6LT6u8s35WZpjNJPcOhZ1-vB1QIhGQY66l0fYQ5KiM#!/article/The_Neglected_Disrespected_Saga_Of_Paul_Revere_and_The_Raiders_by_mitchellcohen) is a recent article that makes that argument. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998/40 "2019-09-13T16:42:26Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Doug Stanhope is a pretty well respected comedian. His comedy isn’t really mainstream but he is one of the best comedians working right now. However when he does shows he usually only sells a few hundred tickets per show. He’s considered a comedian’s comedian. He mentors a lot of comics. E.g., he has helped out **Mrs. FtG** ’s relative who is a comic of similar ilk. He does small time benefit gigs, too. Nice guy who does out-there comedy. So not easily pegged for the purposes of promotion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-talented-not-appreciated/839998.md?page=3)