# Super Tuesday Primary Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 1, 2020, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741 "2020-03-01T05:33:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/121 "2020-03-04T02:44:33Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> That’s why Biden isn’t running alone, and won’t be through the rest of this primary slog.
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> The sooner Biden can lock up that 1,991, the sooner we’ll get back to the Biden/Obama buddy movie. It will run throughout the general election. Meantime, surrogates Klobuchar (soon to be Veep, I’ve said so for ages), Buttegieg, O’Rourke, Harris, Clyburn, Bloomberg, Steyer, Booker, Inslee et. al will fan out all across the country, giving Biden the help he needs to finish up this campaign.
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> Biden will be a fine president. He governs far better than he campaigns.
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> I, too, am very relieved to hear about the turnout numbers. This is going to be a turnout election. The theme is basic human decency.

And we will also have the Clintons and Michelle Obama out there.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/122 "2020-03-04T02:48:52Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> And we will also have the Clintons and Michelle Obama out there.

I kind of hope the Clintons sit this one out. But I’d be delighted to see Jimmy Carter, John Kerry, Al Gore, Valerie Plame, Mark Kelly, Stacey Abrams, Jon Tester and many others jump to the fore.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/123 "2020-03-04T02:56:50Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I kind of hope the Clintons sit this one out. But I’d be delighted to see Jimmy Carter, John Kerry, Al Gore, Valerie Plame, Mark Kelly, Stacey Abrams, Jon Tester and many others jump to the fore.

Bill Clinton still knows how to work an audience. I don’t want him sitting out.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/124 "2020-03-04T02:58:49Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Sanders will likely win California and he could win Texas, but Super Tuesday belongs to Joe Biden.

Yeah, Biden seems to be winning most states, even fairly liberal states like MA. However 7 of the states in play today are southern states, which have high black population who go heavily for Biden.

Sanders will probably win TX & CA which make up half the delegate count from today. He also won CO. Obviously he will win VT (But by a smaller margin than he won the state in 2016).

At the end of the night I’m guessing the delegates awarded will be roughly similar, maybe ~600 something for Biden and ~500 something for Sanders.

I believe latino population lean towards Sanders, at least they did in NV. I’m not sure how that’ll impact southwestern primary states.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/125 "2020-03-04T02:59:17Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Sanders will likely win California and he could win Texas, but Super Tuesday belongs to Joe Biden.

[Early exit polls](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/exit-polls-2020-super-tuesday-primary/) seem to have Biden running away with it (except in Vermont…no surprise there).

Biden keeps doing inexplicably well with the black community.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/126 "2020-03-04T03:00:20Z")

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Full disclosure: I voted for Warren in Colorado.

This is shaping up to be a monster night for Biden. He may end Super Tuesday with both the popular vote and, more importantly, the pledged delegates leads. That was unthinkable a week and half ago.

After tonight we’re 40% of the way there and Bernie’s paths to the nomination are closing with a path through the midwest his lifeline.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/127 "2020-03-04T03:06:55Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> [Early exit polls](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/exit-polls-2020-super-tuesday-primary/) seem to have Biden running away with it (except in Vermont…no surprise there).
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> Biden keeps doing inexplicably well with the black community.

I wouldn’t say that it is inexplicable. Many associate him with Obama.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/128 "2020-03-04T03:08:26Z")

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Maine, Massachusetts, and Minnesota may all go Biden. Unbelievable.

Even if things swing Bernie’s way as the vote comes in, he’s only going to net a handful of delegates there. Massively below expectations.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/129 "2020-03-04T03:09:42Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I wouldn’t say that it is inexplicable. Many associate him with Obama.

That shit is explicableAF.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/130 "2020-03-04T03:10:00Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> [Early exit polls](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/exit-polls-2020-super-tuesday-primary/) seem to have Biden running away with it (except in Vermont…no surprise there).
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> Biden keeps doing inexplicably well with the black community.

No disrespect to the Latino community, but the states that really, really matter are states in which the black community felt uninspired to show up and vote: Wisconsin (Metro Milwaukee); Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh, Philadelphia); North Carolina (Charlotte). And Florida’s Latino vote isn’t pro-Bernie; in fact, Bernie-ism might cost Florida, not just in the presidential election but down ballot. Dems aren’t going to lose California and they’re not likely to win Texas, so I don’t think Bernie really accomplishes anything by winning those two states other than racking up delegates.

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**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/131 "2020-03-04T03:10:59Z")

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E.W. does not appear to be doing well. That disappoints me, greatly. She is, by FAR, the best candidate for Prez this time around in my estimation.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/132 "2020-03-04T03:11:47Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Bill Clinton still knows how to work an audience. I don’t want him sitting out.

Exactly, there’s certain places he can definitely be an asset, even those senate races in purple states could use a boost from Bill.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/133 "2020-03-04T03:14:15Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> Maine, Massachusetts, and Minnesota may all go Biden. Unbelievable.
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> Even if things swing Bernie’s way as the vote comes in, he’s only going to net a handful of delegates there. Massively below expectations.

Also Arkansas, Tennessee and Oklahoma.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/134 "2020-03-04T03:17:13Z")

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> [@racepug](#):
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> E.W. does not appear to be doing well. That disappoints me, greatly. She is, by FAR, the best candidate for Prez this time around in my estimation.

And she has definitely lost her home state and may finish 3rd.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/135 "2020-03-04T03:19:14Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Sad that some folks like you are so vindictive towards millions of your fellow Democrats. I’m a decent guy who just so happens to disagree with you on the best candidate for the party, it’s a shame that you enjoy this kind of childish cruelty.

It’s true that you don’t much resemble the legion of really nasty Bernie Bros that many of us have had to deal with for years now. But I also really dislike Bernie himself. He is dishonest and destructive to the party. So it’s hard for me not to feel schadenfreude.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/136 "2020-03-04T03:19:57Z")

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Biden takes Minnesota.

Thank you, Amy!

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/137 "2020-03-04T03:21:08Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Also Arkansas, Tennessee and Oklahoma.

As far as I know, those are done deals and going Biden.

Oklahoma is mildly interesting because Sanders won that over Clinton in the 2016 **caucus**. They switched to a **primary** this year which may be part of the story.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/138 "2020-03-04T03:22:43Z")

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Biden takes Massachusetts! Wow.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/139 "2020-03-04T03:25:05Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> As far as I know, those are done deals and going Biden.
> 
> Oklahoma is mildly interesting because Sanders won that over Clinton in the 2016 **caucus**. They switched to a **primary** this year which may be part of the story.

I’m caught up in the moment. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-tuesday-primary-discussion/848741/140 "2020-03-04T03:27:56Z")

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Watching/listening to Biden’s speech right now. Awful. Awful. AWFUL! Sounds like he has a mouthful of marbles. “The gun mannuhfacturers.” He sounds like he has dentures that are falling out. Just at this moment, there’s also a giant wave of boos from somewhere in the crowd. More mumbling and sentence fragments that make no sense… oh my God, I can’t stand it. UGH. UGH! Cringe, maximum cringe.

This guy is going to lose to Trump.

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