# Superbowl 53 game thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 3, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897 "2019-02-03T18:55:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/61 "2019-02-04T05:53:44Z")

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One thing I enjoyed was Romo explaining things and making predictions. He’s really good. He should be the Super Bowl guy from now on.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/62 "2019-02-04T05:55:45Z")

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I rather enjoyed that game, but then again I appreciate that football is more than just offense.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Assuming you’re responding to the text you’d quoted, it’s simply because no other franchise has 6 Super Bowl wins.

The “Sixburgh” Steelers do.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/63 "2019-02-04T06:03:12Z")

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Patriots have won 3 more AFC title games than Pittsburgh, and are also 3-0 against the Steelers in the playoffs. Not much of a contest. And who knows, Brady and Belichick might even get to 7# next year.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/64 "2019-02-04T06:24:24Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Assuming you’re responding to the text you’d quoted, it’s simply because no other franchise has 6 Super Bowl wins. Especially not with the same head coach and QB for all of them.
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> Though the rest of your comment seems like a non sequitur so I’m not sure if you are.

The Steelers haven’t won 6 Super Bowls? Guess all those shiny graphics and data sets and history notebooks have it wrong. While the Patriots are indeed the team of the last two decades, proclaiming them undeniably “BEST EVAR” happily ignores almost a century of NFL history. I’d argue that winning in multiple eras, like the Steelers, is a sign of greatness in a franchise, not just a coach/QB combo. Hell, Green Bay only needed 7 seasons to be the best in the NFL five times, not 15.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/65 "2019-02-04T06:29:02Z")

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I think a lot of the patriots mystique faded after that game …….

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/66 "2019-02-04T07:31:24Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> The Steelers haven’t won 6 Super Bowls? Guess all those shiny graphics and data sets and history notebooks have it wrong. While the Patriots are indeed the team of the last two decades, proclaiming them undeniably “BEST EVAR” happily ignores almost a century of NFL history. I’d argue that winning in multiple eras, like the Steelers, is a sign of greatness in a franchise, not just a coach/QB combo. Hell, Green Bay only needed 7 seasons to be the best in the NFL five times, not 15.

And Chuck Noll had more class in his little toe than Belichick will ever have in his entire body. Ditto the Rooneys. (RIP, Dan and Art)  
(Besides, we never had to cheat)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/67 "2019-02-04T07:43:40Z")

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I think a lot of the displeasure/boredom people had watching the game wasn’t necessarily because it was a defensive rather than offensive struggle, it’s because it never felt like the Rams had much of a chance. We were watching the Pats win their 90th superbowl in the last 5 years and that’s just the opposite of fun. Sure, it wasn’t a blowout, but we all know the feeling of the inevitable Patriots win.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/68 "2019-02-04T08:06:08Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> And Chuck Noll had more class in his little toe than Belichick will ever have in his entire body. Ditto the Rooneys. (RIP, Dan and Art)  
> (Besides, we never had to cheat)

Isn’t the 70s Steelers dynasty the poster child for cheating with steroids? (A much more serious type of cheating than anything the Patriots have been accused of.)

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/69 "2019-02-04T08:17:21Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Halftime. I had no idea who any of those acts were.

Loved this quote.

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> Maroon 5, masterful at creating hits that take an active mental effort to distinguish from one another, did not enter this gig with the burden of great expectations.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/70 "2019-02-04T08:26:32Z")

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the other thing is everyone wasn’t doing anything that they weren’t already doing back in week 8 so almost nothing was surprising in the 2 minutes I watched one of the commentators even said as much

as someone said on another board I read" it was a good game for the regular season…not so much for the super bowl"

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/71 "2019-02-04T10:53:09Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I rather enjoyed that game, but then again I appreciate that football is more than just offense.
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> The “Sixburgh” Steelers do.

Yes, but the Patriots have pretty much left the Steelers behind in terms of Super Bowl appearances and AFC Title Game appearances. In fact, even if they had lost the Super Bowl, consider the fact that they’ve been to the AFC title game, the NFL’s final four, 8 straight years. The last time they didn’t make it, they were 14-2 and the number one seed, ironically. The Patriots sustained high level of achievement is simply unparalleled in the NFL - in any era over the last century. The Patriots are becoming a super dominant franchise, like the New York Yankees in baseball.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/72 "2019-02-04T10:55:55Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> Loved this quote.

The Super Bowl is becoming a consistently good game, or at least a consistently competitive game. But it’s becoming way, way too corporate in many other respects. Culturally, as an event that attracts artistic creativity in its live performances and marketing, it’s stale and vapid.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/73 "2019-02-04T10:59:55Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I think a lot of the displeasure/boredom people had watching the game wasn’t necessarily because it was a defensive rather than offensive struggle, it’s because it never felt like the Rams had much of a chance. We were watching the Pats win their 90th superbowl in the last 5 years and that’s just the opposite of fun. Sure, it wasn’t a blowout, but we all know the feeling of the inevitable Patriots win.

I don’t know what game you were watching but the Rams had a chance to win most of the game. The problem is, the real MVP, the Patriots defense, dominated that game. The Rams defense played great in their own respect, but the Pats just came up with huge play after huge play. The Patriots defense was so dominant, it wasn’t just affecting Goff, it affected how McVay approached the game. I get the sense McVay and the Rams were confident that they would eventually start to get their looks on offense and that the field would open up - it did for a play or two, but never more than that. I wonder what would have happened if McVay had utilized a hurry-up offense with a little more misdirection, but I don’t think that’s really their style, and that was obviously never even considered as a backup in case their offense never got going. The assumption was, the offense would eventually kick start itself.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/74 "2019-02-04T11:14:57Z")

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Steelers still have more class. (Well, except that prick, Roethlisberger. I can’t wait until he retires)

> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Isn’t the 70s Steelers dynasty the poster child for cheating with steroids? (A much more serious type of cheating than anything the Patriots have been accused of.)

Not that I’m aware of, although someone can correct me if I’m wrong.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/75 "2019-02-04T12:35:03Z")

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Interrupting this fascinating attempt to decide who the best franchise ever is (really? Is there ANY franchise that comes close to the Green Bay Packers and what they’ve accomplished over the history of the NFL??), filled as it is with incorrect statements (I particularly love the claim that the six Patriots Super Bowls are the most ever, not tied for the most ever)…

Is it just me, or was anyone else struck by the ironic contrast between the Peyton Manning/John Malkovich intro (proclaiming that the ONLY story that needed to be highlighted was the game itself) and the actual game, which was pretty much a snooze fest?? Maybe they SHOULD have had some Roman gladiators, and a bit of rain to allow for wet, half-naked bodies… 😃

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/76 "2019-02-04T12:40:05Z")

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I hate to say it, but this game all but made me conclude that Bellicheat is the best NFL coach of all time. The way he could gameplan to stymie yet another top offense team (playing a new brand of offense apparently) and hold them to 3 points is just amazing. It was a master class, and McVay simply had no response. It didn’t hurt that Goff is young and played very poorly, but the Pats played a lot more zone coverage and did a lot more twisting and stunting on the defensive line than in most games they put on tape. Their ability to be versatile and come up with a gameplan to defeat a specific team is simply outstanding. In the last 15 years, the Pats have had a top 10 scoring defense in every season except 2. And Tom Brady’s streak of never winning a Super Bowl without a top 10 scoring defense goes for another game.

Now I have to go shower.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/77 "2019-02-04T13:00:58Z")

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Yeah, here here, that’s all correct.

But the Pats dominance is like having a never-ending sports movie where the bad guy wins over and over.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/78 "2019-02-04T13:10:15Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> One thing I enjoyed was Romo explaining things and making predictions. He’s really good. He should be the Super Bowl guy from now on.

> [@](#):
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> But it’s becoming way, way too corporate in many other respects. Culturally, as an event that attracts artistic creativity in its live performances and marketing, it’s stale and vapid.

Funny - my wife and I are not big football fans, but we watched the SB (Well, I mostly read while it was on…) My wife’s biggest comment after was , “Why on earth did they give a mic to that one idiot?!” I wasn’t impressed, but I wasn’t really listening.

My wife watches it essentially as a social spectacle. I sit there because she makes a great pot of chili! I’m thinking of posting a thread elsewhere, but does anyone know of a good economic analysis of the SB? It is pretty amazing the resources that go into this single event!

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/79 "2019-02-04T13:37:04Z")

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Stupid question - but how come Tom Brady doesn’t have to wear/carry his own helmet in/out of the locker room?

I know he is a superstar and handsome and all, but it struck me as odd, that when the Pats lined up to enter the field, Brady was the only one not wearing a helmet. And he wasn’t carrying it either. Then, at the end of the 1st half, as everyone headed off the field, the camera showed him handing his helmet to someone.

Do the Pats employ someone to be Brady’s helmet gopher?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superbowl-53-game-thread/828897/80 "2019-02-04T13:42:55Z")

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As I understand it, the QB helmet has a radio in it. Might be installed or being checked. Maybe the officials go over it to ensure that it is within the rules.

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