# Supergirl Season 2
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 11, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236 "2016-10-11T12:39:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/1 "2016-10-11T12:39:16Z")
The Girl of Steel is back, on a different network and a different shooting location. I am actually impressed at how they got cold and rainy Vancouver to look like sunny Southern California. I’m also impressed with Tyler Hoechlin who did both Superman and Clark Kent quite well. He doesn’t exactly have the Herculean proportions we usually expect of Supes, but he wore the blue pajamas quite well. He also somehow managed to look bigger as Superman than as Clark Kent.
Some other random observations:
- Clark doesn’t like J’onn. AWKWARD!
- Lena Luthor ISN’T the Big Bad this season. (Or is she?)
- Cat Grant was in fine form; I dare say, even better than last season. I guess with Callista Flockhart having only limited appearances now, they have to make each one count.
- They appear to be dropping the whole Kara/Jimmy thing. Thank God!
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### Author:  [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/2 "2016-10-11T13:08:04Z")
“MISS TESSMACHER!” 😃
Cat Grant’s inspirational speech to Kara about taking the plunge really made me admire her. And she can actually pronounce Kara’s name correctly when she’s being serious.
I totally agree about Tyler Hoechlin’s Superman. He reminds me of Dean Cain’s Man of Steel in _Lois and Clark_. Why can’t the movies go back to this type of Superman as played by Cain and Christopher Reeve?
I liked the little throwaway lines like Win referencing Luthor starting an earthquake in California and “This looks like a job for…both of us.”
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### Author:  [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/3 "2016-10-11T13:14:28Z")
This is the one superhero show I’m willing to watch because it’s such a nice throwback to the comics of the 50s and 60s.
I loved hearing “Miss Tessmacher.”
And also introducing Metallo. That’s a smart idea – bring back Superman villains from that era (Titano! The Toyman! The Prankster!)
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### Author:  [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/4 "2016-10-11T13:29:53Z")
I thought the acting for Clark/Supes was good, but the costume sucked ass. Where are the red briefs? What’s with the super-sized buckles holding the cape on? And come on, Superman has a curl on his forehead.
Calista Flockhart steals the show, in my opinion. The writers are doing a fine job of slowly adding depth to her character from its original cartoonish start.
Glad to see the James-Kara romance is being dropped. James should be a minor character, would rather see her hook up with Winn at some point.
The Superman-Martian feud seems silly. So they keep kryptonite around in case any bad Kryptonians pop up (as they have done before). Surely Superman can see that possibility.
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### Author:  [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/5 "2016-10-11T14:11:24Z")
> [@cochrane](#):
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> “MISS TESSMACHER!” 😃
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> … I liked the little throwaway lines like Win referencing Luthor starting an earthquake in California and “This looks like a job for…both of us.”
I recall a reference to flying as the safest form of transportation. That’s from way back in _ **Superman the Movie** _, and it was repeated in _ **Superman Returns** _.
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### Author:  [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/6 "2016-10-11T14:30:48Z")
Oh, man, I totally missed that Winn was talking about the events of the first _Superman_ movie.
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### Author:  [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/7 "2016-10-11T16:20:50Z")
Win’s character is actually more Jimmy Olsen than the Jimmy Olsen character is.
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### Author:  [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/8 "2016-10-11T17:06:27Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> The Superman-Martian feud seems silly. So they keep kryptonite around in case any bad Kryptonians pop up (as they have done before). Surely Superman can see that possibility.
Hasn’t Superman given Batman a piece of Kryptonite for just that reason?
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### Author:  [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/9 "2016-10-11T18:52:45Z")
> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Win’s character is actually more Jimmy Olsen than the Jimmy Olsen character is.
Yeah–I like the guy playing Jimmy Olsen, but Jimmy is just not a mature, deep-voiced 30-something guy who’s got his life together. I really wish they could figure out a way to introduce a real Jimmy Olsen\* and say that this guy is James Olsen, older cousin of Superman’s Pal Jimmy. Keep him in the show. He’s a nice grounded character, but he ain’t Jimmy Olsen.
\*The kid who they want to have as Mr. Terrific in Arrow would be perfect, btw)
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### Author:  [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/10 "2016-10-11T19:07:21Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> The Superman-Martian feud seems silly. So they keep kryptonite around in case any bad Kryptonians pop up (as they have done before). Surely Superman can see that possibility.
Yeah, that bugged me, too. Heck, we’ve already seen Kara go a bit nutso from Red K, so it’s not that bad an idea to keep some of the green stuff around just in case.
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### Author:  [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/11 "2016-10-11T19:16:49Z")
> [@cochrane](#):
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> Hasn’t Superman given Batman a piece of Kryptonite for just that reason?
Yes, he has, in the comics. Superman trusts Batman, he doesn’t trust certain government agencies.
Tyler Hoechlin did a great job as Clark and Superman. I imagine his appearance last night and next week are a backdoor pilot. His costume is fine, except the belt should be thinner and lose the shoulder straps.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/12 "2016-10-11T19:37:45Z")
> [@cochrane](#):
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> Hasn’t Superman given Batman a piece of Kryptonite for just that reason?
IIRC, when he did that, it was the _only_ piece of Kryptonite on the planet.
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### Author:  [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/13 "2016-10-11T20:58:57Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> I loved hearing “Miss Tessmacher.”
Nice throwback, but does anyone think Cat Grant would call her assistant by her last name? She never even bothered to get Kara’s first name right.
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Glad to see the James-Kara romance is being dropped. James should be a minor character, would rather see her hook up with Winn at some point.
Yeah, might also be interesting for Winn to move on and have Kara pining for him for a while. So far, the show has had the whole world available to Kara, and it’s been about her fretting and trying to decide what she wants from an infinite variety of options. Let’s see what happens when she wants someone she can’t have.
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> The Superman-Martian feud seems silly. So they keep kryptonite around in case any bad Kryptonians pop up (as they have done before). Surely Superman can see that possibility.
I don’t know if I’d call it silly. Seems to me that Supes is worried about what happens if the DEO goes bad, the DEO is worried about what happens if Supes goes bad, and both of them too stubborn to admit that the other’s worries are not only justified, but exactly the same as their own. The writers may have just wanted a reason for Superman not to be around all the time. It is Supergirl’s show, after all.
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### Author:  [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/14 "2016-10-12T00:44:17Z")
This was a good start to the season. Superman fit right in but didn’t overshadow and he smiled and was like Superman is supposed to be.
Cat is great. Her scenes with both Supergirl and Kara crackle. She will be missed and is probably the only bad thing about the move to the CW.
I like the new set.
I like the twist with a Luthor being a good guy.
As soon as I heard the name Corben I yelled “Metallo!” Guessing that hunk of Kryponite J’onn and Superman are fighting about is going to get stolen.
Speaking of names, I’m not gonna lie, I always thought Gene Hackman was saying, “Miss TessBaucher!” with a B. I wonder if this one’s Mom also lives in Hackensack 🙂
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### Author:  [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/15 "2016-10-12T16:07:54Z")
I am undecided on the Kara/James split, but I am **absolutely** not here for any kind of Kara/Winn relationship. I want no parts of that, whatsoever.
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### Author:  [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/16 "2016-10-12T16:14:08Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Nice throwback, but does anyone think Cat Grant would call her assistant by her last name? She never even bothered to get Kara’s first name right.
Sure. If her first name was simple and her last name wasn’t.
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### Author:  [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/17 "2016-10-12T16:40:57Z")
Why do they need Clark in National City again?
What I did like was that
i) Clark’s clumsiness is real, not an act.
ii) Clark is a genuinely capable and respected reporter in how own right. Clark Kent is Superman; its not a civilian identity, its a real person.
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### Author:  [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/18 "2016-10-12T18:18:05Z")
Add me to those who loved the portrayal of Superman. It was just … right.
Unrelated to the show itself, the CW site made me turn off my ad-blocker to watch it. It did _not_ make me turn it off to watch _Arrow_ or _Flash_. Weird.
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### Author:  [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/19 "2016-10-12T20:38:55Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Oh, man, I totally missed that Winn was talking about the events of the first _Superman_ movie.
There was a callback to _The Adventures of Superman_, too.
Paraphrasing to the best of my recollection.
Clark on the phone to Perry: “But you still say, ‘Great Caesar’s Ghost!’ after all this time.”
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### Author:  [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/20 "2016-10-12T23:23:26Z")
Great Caesar’s Ghost is Perry’s catchphrase in most versions (everything except Lois & Clark, where it was swapped for Great Shades of Elvis, I believe), not a reference to any particular adaptation.
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