# Supergirl Season 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 11, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236 "2016-10-11T12:39:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/201 "2017-02-14T20:07:32Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Why do the producers of Supergirl seem determined to turn it into Smallville?

It did change networks, and CW does have a distinct style.

I’m still sad they took one of my top 10 Legionnaires and screwed him up. Not too fond of this portrayal of the Martian Manhunter either. Surprisingly, I don’t mind this version of Guardian, though having him be Jimmy Olsen (I know - conservation of characters and actor expense) is an issue.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/202 "2017-02-15T02:03:48Z")

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Not sure I’m a fan of the Lena Luthor is good…or is she BUM BUM BUM! ending.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/203 "2017-02-15T02:11:18Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Why do the producers of Supergirl seem determined to turn it into Smallville? There’s already enough interpersonal drama without the crappy [del]Lionel/Lex[/del] Lillian/Lena [del]daddy[/del] mommy-issues drivel. Smallville kinda sucked and turning Supergirl into it is not a good idea.

Could well be you’re not the target audience, my friend. My girls - 16 and 12 - as well as their friends…eat it up and want some more. It’s the most girl-powered thing I maybe have ever seen.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/204 "2017-02-15T03:04:59Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Not sure I’m a fan of the Lena Luthor is good…or is she BUM BUM BUM! ending.

I like the Lena character. Prolly will turn evil eventually.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/205 "2017-02-20T20:16:04Z")

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From the end of last week’s episode, it appears that

We’re about to have a Mxyzptlk episode. Or as those of us who grew up with the Super Friends call him, “Mister Mixle-plick”.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/206 "2017-02-21T08:18:44Z")

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Poor Jimmy Olsen. Friendzoned so hard that he didn’t even appear in the Valentine’s Day episode. Good on Winn for getting some hot alien action.

I guess Mon-el and Kara is actually going to be a thing. And the stupid secret Mon-el’s been keeping is going to come between them in the future. I’m on to you CW.

I’m vaguely disappointed by this episode. Mxyzptlk\* was rather menacing here, due to his infatuation with Kara. I expect him to be more a creature of pure chaos, doing random stuff just of the hell of it, rather than having a specific goal in mind.

\*Chrome’s built-in spellchecker amazingly has this in its dictionary.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/207 "2017-02-21T10:53:28Z")

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I really don’t think Mon-el’s secret is going to be all that shocking - turns out he really is the Prince of Daxam, not the Prince’s friend, or something like that…this will probably become relevant when his arranged-marriage wife comes looking for him or some similarly ‘humourous’ event…

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/208 "2017-02-21T12:51:14Z")

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I liked Mr. Mxyzptlk, though I would have preferred him to be a little bald guy in the orange suit and purple bowler. Writing the name backwards was a little bit of a cheat, in my opinion. Superman always found a way to trick him into saying Kltpzyxm! I have to admit he has a good fashion sense, Kara really rocked that wedding dress.

I think the Alex lesbian romance is getting to be too much of a distraction. The Winn-alien affair was a little too far out there. Why should the aliens’ sexual apparatus be compatible with humans?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/209 "2017-02-21T13:25:06Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I liked Mr. Mxyzptlk, though I would have preferred him to be a little bald guy in the orange suit and purple bowler. Writing the name backwards was a little bit of a cheat, in my opinion. Superman always found a way to trick him into saying Kltpzyxm!

Off the top of my head, John Byrne did the First-Meeting-Of-Mxy-And-Superman story with the twist of making it seem like the imp’s name is maybe unpronounceable by us simpletons, and so he’ll provide one by rapidly and casually tapping away at the keys of a typewriter as if at random, and – hey, okay, MXYZPTLK, sure, let’s go with that for the backwards-name challenge, because, what the heck, why not.

Superman does his best to keep the mischief from killing anyone; and then shows up, typewriter at hand, to speechify about how the supposed gamesman isn’t treating this seriously, since that’s not really what a name _is,_ is it? It’s just a bunch of marks you made at random! You’d get a completely different result if you did that again!

To eye-rollingly address this slur on his fair-play bona fides by proving the big guy wrong, Mxyzptlk makes a big show of tapping away just as casually and rapidly as before. Except he’s using magic to cheat. Except that’s okay, because Superman mucked with the innards so the “M” key now prints a “K”, and so on.

The guy disappears in a puff of logic.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/210 "2017-02-21T13:55:05Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I liked Mr. Mxyzptlk, though I would have preferred him to be a little bald guy in the orange suit and purple bowler.

I was a bit disappointed that they didn’t depict him like that, myself. But no, they had to go with the stereotypical hunky / quirky fellow! I still enjoyed the episode, though.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/211 "2017-02-21T15:44:42Z")

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Mr. M. does have a history of romantic inclination. I do remember him pursuing Lucy Lane and would not be surprised if he went after Supergirl at one point or another.

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**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/212 "2017-02-21T16:00:48Z")

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I’ll admit I wasn’t paying as much attention as I could have, but why did Supergirl show up in the Fortress with a glass of orange juice in hand? And drink some of the orange juice before she would answer Mxy? And then put the glass down and never mention it again? I must have missed something, right?

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/213 "2017-02-21T16:42:03Z")

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The orange suit and the purple bowler are for Superman, for Kara, he went the the “hunky guy” appearance for, well, obvious reasons. We’ve had some information that neither is his real appearance. Still, at least the hat would have been nice.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/214 "2017-02-21T17:42:16Z")

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And Aliens on this show have officially become the same thing demons were on Buffy: originally a secret and a big deal but now just people in make up who apparently go out to dinner and it’s no biggie.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/215 "2017-02-21T18:12:14Z")

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> [@Cayuga](#):
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> I’ll admit I wasn’t paying as much attention as I could have, but why did Supergirl show up in the Fortress with a glass of orange juice in hand? And drink some of the orange juice before she would answer Mxy? And then put the glass down and never mention it again? I must have missed something, right?

IIRC, early on he playfully specified that he didn’t have direct power over whether he wins her heart – or whether she dies – or whether she drinks orange juice. So that first part explains why he pulls all those hijinks instead of hitting her with a love spell, and the second explains why he frenziedly punches in that mundane solution at the end, and I guess the orange juice was just a callback to the third.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/216 "2017-02-21T19:14:55Z")

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I think there’s some interesting ethical considerations here. What if Kara said “sure, I"ll consider marrying you if you: (1) cure cancer, (2) cure world hunger, (3) change the laws of reality so that no WMD will ever work in the solar system”, and a few other such wishes (carefully phrased to avoid monkey paws). Frankly, it’s kind of selfish of her not to do so.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/217 "2017-02-21T21:45:02Z")

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I didn’t care for this version of Mxyzptlk so much. He’s supposed to be an imp, not a good looking fella with perfect 5:00 shadow. The fact that he’s small and goofy yet dangerous is kind of the point.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/218 "2017-02-21T22:57:43Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> IIRC, early on he playfully specified that he didn’t have direct power over whether he wins her heart – or whether she dies – or whether she drinks orange juice. So that first part explains why he pulls all those hijinks instead of hitting her with a love spell, and the second explains why he frenziedly punches in that mundane solution at the end, and I guess the orange juice was just a callback to the third.

Yes, the orange juice was just a pointed reminder of the rules Mxy enumerated at the start of the episode. He can’t control Kara on matters of love, death, and orange juice.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/219 "2017-02-22T02:53:52Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Yes, the orange juice was just a pointed reminder of the rules Mxy enumerated at the start of the episode. He can’t control Kara on matters of love, death, and orange juice.

Now I remember that. At first I thought it was some odd homage to the Godfather where oranges foreshadow death.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/220 "2017-02-22T05:07:42Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Could well be you’re not the target audience, my friend. My girls - 16 and 12 - as well as their friends…eat it up and want some more. It’s the most girl-powered thing I maybe have ever seen.

Did your girls watch Agent Carter while it was on? If they like this, they may like those as well.

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