# Supergirl Season 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 11, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236 "2016-10-11T12:39:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/61 "2016-11-10T18:52:37Z")

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Did anyone out there not realize who Cadmus lady was before the “shocking” reveal?

This show was better last year.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/62 "2016-11-10T19:06:05Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Did anyone out there not realize who Cadmus lady was before the “shocking” reveal?
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> This show was better last year.

Umm, who was it?😕😕

I expected Amanda Waller.

And President "Lynda Carter " is some sort of alien? Not Wonder woman??

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/63 "2016-11-10T19:59:59Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Umm, who was it?😕😕
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> I expected Amanda Waller.

Lena (and Lex) Luthor’s mother.

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/64 "2016-11-10T20:00:35Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Umm, who was it?😕😕
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> I expected Amanda Waller.

Lena (and therefore Lex) Luthor’s mother. Lena called her “Mom” right before the dramatic end-of-episode music.

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> And President "Lynda Carter " is some sort of alien? Not Wonder woman??

I don’t think there was ever any possibility that she would actually be Wonder Woman. I was kind of hoping her given name might be Diana, as a kind of shout-out, but no such luck–apparently it’s Olivia. And yes, based on her glowy eyes, it looks like she’s probably an alien in disguise. Whether a good one or a bad one remains to be seen.

Edited to add: Darn! Spoiler-ninjaed!

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/65 "2016-11-13T20:23:53Z")

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FYI if you live in the NYC area, Football is on WPIX tomorrow and Supergirl is on Saturday at 8. My DVR found it for me.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/66 "2016-11-13T23:16:28Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> Lena (and therefore Lex) Luthor’s mother. Lena called her “Mom” right before the dramatic end-of-episode music.
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> I don’t think there was ever any possibility that she would actually be Wonder Woman. I was kind of hoping her given name might be Diana, as a kind of shout-out, but no such luck–apparently it’s Olivia. And yes, based on her glowy eyes, it looks like she’s probably an alien in disguise. Whether a good one or a bad one remains to be seen.
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> Edited to add: Darn! Spoiler-ninjaed!

I give it a 95% chance that President Wonder Woman is actually a Martian. The effect at the very end of her episode was a dead on ringer for J’onn and M’gan’s.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/67 "2016-11-13T23:53:41Z")

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I noticed a lot of aliens seem to be able to change into human appearance. What’s up with that? Sure, Martians can do it, but does everyone in the galaxy have the ability too?

How come us humans and Kryptonians can’t, dang it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/68 "2016-11-14T00:58:52Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I noticed a lot of aliens seem to be able to change into human appearance. What’s up with that? Sure, Martians can do it, but does everyone in the galaxy have the ability too?
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> How come us humans and Kryptonians can’t, dang it.

we can’t take on human appearance???😕

😛

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/69 "2016-11-15T04:08:57Z")

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A couple of quick thoughts:

– They improved the hell out of Parasite’s origin. But then his origin is one of the dumbest ever so, not hard to do. 😉

- I like the more in-depth characterization of Alex coming out. Last week really seemed too easy, this had a much more nuanced vibe

– I am starting to hate Mon-el. Except for the name and the powers he has nothing to do with the character in the comics that I really like. It would be like having a character in a Star Trek comic named Spock who is from Vulcan but giving him Sheldon’s personality traits.

– They have got to fix the color scheme on Guardian’s costume. The costume itself is fine but black and silver sucks. It needs to be blue and gold.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/70 "2016-11-15T04:51:27Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> The costume itself is fine but black and silver sucks. It needs to be blue and gold.

Oh no, not that shit again.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/71 "2016-11-15T05:14:25Z")

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I like this version of Mon-el. He has Kara constantly pissed off. She’s totally into him.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/72 "2016-11-15T07:50:20Z")

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I laughed out loud when Mon-el decided to become a standover man. One of the funniest moments in the show so far.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/73 "2016-11-15T08:12:42Z")

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Did Kara just disperse deadly Pu-239 throughout National City?

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/74 "2016-11-15T12:39:14Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Did Kara just disperse deadly Pu-239 throughout National City?

And did the power plant give it to her, or did she steal it?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/75 "2016-11-15T14:38:48Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Oh no, not that shit again.

What shit?

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/76 "2016-11-15T14:57:40Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> What shit?

[What’s the color of the dress?](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/28/science/white-or-blue-dress.html)

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/77 "2016-11-15T15:38:17Z")

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Some thoughts.

I loved that the brought back the Parasite. It was one of Superman’s best villains in concept, but they never knew what to do with him: a non-Kryptonian who can go toe-to-toe with him. He was probably a hard character to write, since there a few ways to defeat him. (I hope they bring back the original Terra-Man\* next, another favorite of mine who’s completely forgotten).

The Alex as lesbian storyline seems pretty much out of the blue and felt like something the writers jury-rigged without any real groundwork beforehand. It’s also pretty lame – she sees a gay woman, suddenly is romantically attracted to her, and then she dumps her. It’s like the actress was hired for three episodes so it couldn’t continue. On the plus side, they at least threw in some rationalization – Alex and her high school friend – which handwaves away the problem, but at least it was an attempt.

What’s interesting is that the show this year has been a super-powered version of _Alien Nation._

\*It looks like some of the Parasite borrowed from the revised version of Terra-Man.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/78 "2016-11-15T15:39:42Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I noticed a lot of aliens seem to be able to change into human appearance.

Three is a lot? We’ve seen J’onn, M’Gann, and the President (maybe).

We’ve seen a handful of aliens with externally-identical-to-human form, but no indicator that that’s not their natural form, aside from those three.

Just like in the comics, the Supergirl 'verse clearly has a lot of alien species who look like humans - Kryptonians, Daxamites, Roltikkons\*, etc. There’s a bunch in the alien bar who are obviously alien, but can hide this with clothing, hair, or accessory choices, but that’s not the same as being able to assume human form - their species are just very close to human in appearance.

- Roltikkons seem to be a variant on Tamaranians, who are a bit less human looking - bright orange skin, eyes that lack pupil and iris (or iris and sclera, depending how you want to look at it) - but have the same ‘making linguistics literal’ gag. Not sure why they didn’t just use more human-looking Tamaranians…are there plans to do something with the Titans?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/79 "2016-11-15T15:52:57Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> [What’s the color of the dress?](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/28/science/white-or-blue-dress.html)

Even if the black is actually blue, the silvery/chrome metal ain’t gold. And the gold color makes the costume.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/80 "2016-11-15T16:08:54Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Some thoughts.
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> I loved that the brought back the Parasite. It was one of Superman’s best villains in concept, but they never knew what to do with him: a non-Kryptonian who can go toe-to-toe with him. He was probably a hard character to write, since there a few ways to defeat him.

The other cool thing about the Parasite was, he’d do clichéd comic-book stuff that doesn’t make a ton of sense if you stop and think about it – except, in his case, it makes _perfect_ sense, because of his meta-power.

See, the comics are full of supervillains who use their powers to make a spectacle in public, in a world where superheroes will show up to confront them. Which is stupid; you’d try to keep a low profile, you’d get in and get out and actually do something _profitable_ while doing your best to keep Kryptonians far away by staging a diversion on the other side of town, or the other side of the country, or whatever.

But the Parasite? He pretty much _has_ to cause a ruckus and remain on the scene until a super swoops in; he’s not engaging in theatrics for their own right; he’s drawing attention to his over-the-top activities because he can’t really accomplish all that much unless a caped do-gooder obligingly arrives at the scene of the crime.

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