# Supergirl Season 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 11, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236 "2016-10-11T12:39:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/81 "2016-11-15T16:18:43Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > A couple of quick thoughts: > > – They improved the hell out of Parasite’s origin. But then his origin is one of the dumbest ever so, not hard to do. 😉 What’s wrong with “Doop dee doo, I wonder if there’s some cash in the drum marked nuclear waste?'” > [@](#): > > - I like the more in-depth characterization of Alex coming out. Last week really seemed too easy, this had a much more nuanced vibe. I like the storyline here. It seems a little heavy handed but there is room for nuance and they seem to be working that. They also made a Super Friends joke. Didn’t they do that in Flash as well? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/82 "2016-11-15T17:01:46Z")
I just want to say that Kara has never seemed as sweet and cute as she did curled up on the couch and eating ice cream out of the carton with her hair up. And a drunk Kara? I know she said alcohol doesn’t affect her cousin, or presumably her. They must serve some strong booze in that alien bar if it can get a Kryptonian fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/83 "2016-11-15T17:28:15Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > And a drunk Kara? I know she said alcohol doesn’t affect her cousin, or presumably her. They must serve some strong booze in that alien bar if it can get a Kryptonian fucked up. It’s alien booze for alien physiologies, specifically mentioned as being fatal for humans. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/84 "2016-11-15T17:31:58Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > The other cool thing about the Parasite was, he’d do clichéd comic-book stuff that doesn’t make a ton of sense if you stop and think about it – except, in his case, it makes _perfect_ sense, because of his meta-power. > > See, the comics are full of supervillains who use their powers to make a spectacle in public, in a world where superheroes will show up to confront them. Which is stupid; you’d try to keep a low profile, you’d get in and get out and actually do something _profitable_ while doing your best to keep Kryptonians far away by staging a diversion on the other side of town, or the other side of the country, or whatever. > > But the Parasite? He pretty much _has_ to cause a ruckus and remain on the scene until a super swoops in; he’s not engaging in theatrics for their own right; he’s drawing attention to his over-the-top activities because he can’t really accomplish all that much unless a caped do-gooder obligingly arrives at the scene of the crime. Good analysis. One reason I never took to Marvel comics was that their supervillains were so stupid (yes, even the geniuses) and always challenged the heroes directly. Superman’s villains could rarely do that, so their plans were more clever, and it always was a puzzle to defeat them. Same with Batman. Or the Flash for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/85 "2016-11-15T18:31:06Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > What’s wrong with “Doop dee doo, I wonder if there’s some cash in the drum marked nuclear waste?'” It’s marginally better than “Hm. I wonder what happens if I inject myself with mongoose\* blood?” And it’s about equally as dumb ase guy–The Black Terror, maybe? who was a pharmacist and wanted to be a super hero so he mixed some of everything inside his drugstore together. And then drank it. \*Not radioactive mongoose, or space-mongoose, mind you. The normal earth variety ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/86 "2016-11-15T18:34:18Z")
My weekly gripes: (1) Couldn’t any of the science-y people have even PRETENDED to have the faintest idea that some kind of quarantine might be a good idea when dealing with strange and unknown phenomena? (2) Suggestion for Supergirl: when you meet a villain who can drain your life force by touching you, then used RANGED ATTACKS. Either heat vision or the criminally underused throwing-very-large-objects approach. Heck, just fashion yourself a 30 foot long hammer out of steel and whack him repeatedly. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/87 "2016-11-15T19:23:05Z")
Drunk Supergirl is as fun as ice cream eating Supergirl. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/88 "2016-11-15T19:30:57Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > (2) Suggestion for Supergirl: when you meet a villain who can drain your life force by touching you, then used RANGED ATTACKS. Either heat vision or the criminally underused throwing-very-large-objects approach. Heck, just fashion yourself a 30 foot long hammer out of steel and whack him repeatedly. Not just SG, after they had Parasite all figured out she and MM both touched him. What were they thinking? ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/89 "2016-11-15T21:27:15Z")
For American Ninja Warrior fans, I’m 98% sure I spotted Jessie Graff during this episode. The stunt double who did the wall flip looked a lot like her (and she does stunt work on the show). I would never have noticed except I’m a big fan of hers in ANW. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/90 "2016-11-15T23:44:02Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > It’s alien booze for alien physiologies, specifically mentioned as being fatal for humans. That’s what I thought. Sort of like a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/91 "2016-11-16T00:06:20Z")
The question about the President on this show is, is the actual, human, President still around somewhere? Although that wouldn’t make sense for the villain to do, I’m guessing, for plot purposes, that she is and that Kara will rescue her. The question then will be, since she, the actual President, didn’t sign the law, will she agree to sign it out of gratitude to Kara? Or because she still thinks it’s a good idea? Or will she refuse? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/92 "2016-11-16T00:13:15Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] Suggestion for Supergirl: when you meet a villain who can drain your life force by touching you, then used RANGED ATTACKS. Either heat vision or the criminally underused throwing-very-large-objects approach. Heck, just fashion yourself a 30 foot long hammer out of steel and whack him repeatedly. [/QUOTE] IIRC, that was the fate of Metallo in LOIS & CLARK: sure, the _first_ time, a guy with superstrong robot limbs powered by a kryptonite heart delivers a nasty beatdown to our hero – but the _second_ time, he embarrassingly just _stops having legs_ because the man in the sky has heat vision; and there’s no third time, because, c’mon. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/93 "2016-11-16T01:29:14Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Not just SG, after they had Parasite all figured out she and MM both touched him. What were they thinking? I tried to rationalize that one and all I could come up with was “Um…maybe they were trying to overload him? Maybe?” However, although that might technically count, it’s also super-lame so…no. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/94 "2016-11-16T11:17:22Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > The Alex as lesbian storyline seems pretty much out of the blue and felt like something the writers jury-rigged without any real groundwork beforehand. It’s also pretty lame – she sees a gay woman, suddenly is romantically attracted to her, and then she dumps her. It’s like the actress was hired for three episodes so it couldn’t continue. On the plus side, they at least threw in some rationalization – Alex and her high school friend – which handwaves away the problem, but at least it was an attempt. But Alex and Maggie were never a thing, so no one was dumped nor did anyone do any dumping. If anything, Alex was friendzoned. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/95 "2016-11-16T13:33:03Z")
I was slightly disappointed by the gay cop being “Maggie Sawyer” (as opposed to just some gay cop or “Renee Montoya”–who she looks just like). Maggie was in her late '30s (rare in comics), had a kid (rare in comics) and a husband who was a bigot but NOT um…a villain/abusive\*. Maggie was the (IIRC) first openly gay woman in comics who was normal. Those are some pretty cool story beats that would have added a lot to Supergirl. \*Yeah…bigotry=bad. Full stop. But he didn’t beat the kid, kick the dog, put on powered battle armor. And he didn’t bad-mouth Maggie in front of the kid. He was…y’know…nuanced. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/96 "2016-11-16T13:46:00Z")
Not one mention of ‘Who Goes There?’ the classic SF story by Campbell? Remote frozen outpost, unexpected find in the ice, something that comes to life and begins taking over someone, deaths of everyone… That was my take on where they started. And I do like how they’re handling Alex’s coming out. Going in I knew that Alex suddenly dating Maggie would be a disaster. Now, I’ve never had to come out of the closet, but I think dating someone who just came out would portend disaster in the near term. The fact that Maggie knew that is a real step up in the writing. It would have been easy to use this storyline: 1. Alex has feels 2. Alex comes out 3. Alex and Maggie fall in love 4. Everything’s fine forever The fact that the writers are trying to handle things in a messier, more true-to-life way is a great sign for the series. Alex may have come out to Kara but she’s got a long haul ahead of her to figure out how she wants to handle things from here. I hope we get some episodes where her growth figures into it. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/97 "2016-11-16T13:53:42Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Not one mention of ‘Who Goes There?’ the classic SF story by Campbell? > > Remote frozen outpost, unexpected find in the ice, something that comes to life and begins taking over someone, deaths of everyone… > > That was my take on where they started. Kids these days would probably recall _The Thing_, directed by John Carpenter. Same difference, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/98 "2016-11-16T16:14:56Z")
I love superheroes. I’ve loved them for over 4 decades. I love superhero stories. But I hate how inconsistent they can be. Whether it is in comic format, animated, TV or movie, they are all inconsistent, often with a big dose of stupid thrown in for good measure. **MaxTheVool** pointed out attacking from range, though I suspect that heat vision would have been absorbed. Still, long weapons and heavy objects could work. However, why wasn’t Mon-El (who’s not really Mon-El, but nevermind) drained? And why wasn’t that a Chernobyl-like disaster? It should have been. Instead, just a hand-wave and it goes away. That is simply piss poor writing (yet still better than much of Arrow, and the worst actress here is head and shoulders better than nearly every actress on Arrow). ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/99 "2016-11-16T16:29:52Z")
The plutonium SG was carrying around should have caused some contamination, but I’ll fanwank that Parasite converts various forms of energy into mass and strength, so when he exploded the radiation was probably already converted into something harmless. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/100 "2016-11-16T17:30:33Z")
Now that Cadmus has Mon-El, maybe Supergirl and Alex will get to work on finding their dad, who’s there too, right? Oh, and about Lena Luthor: I figured that she was Lex’s dad’s biological daughter. (And if that’s true, Lex figured it out.) Now I’m wondering if her adoption was the mom’s idea, and she’s the biological daughter of a metahuman. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236.md?page=6)