# Supergirl Season 2

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 11, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236 "2016-10-11T12:39:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/161 "2017-01-31T19:33:16Z")

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Kara getting so bent out of shape about non-powered people being heroes makes no sense given that’s what her sister does.

Which could have been great… she gets all stressed out about trying to keep James safe. And he says “what about your sister?”. And then she has a total breakdown and talks about how nervous she gets every time Alex goes out on a mission but she knows it would alienate Alex forever for Kara to try to keep her safe, so she’s been keeping it inside forever, and now it’s coming out in a need to protect James. Something like that could be fantastic and meaningful. Instead we get nonsense. Too much nonsense to list. But, really, you have a deadly uncatchable supernatural assassin in your jail and the only extra security she gets is a bucket of water? And how did those thugs restrain her after kidnapping her? Yada yada yada.

On another note entirely, I believe that fake livewire was played by Jessie Graff, greatest female American Ninja Warrior competitor ever, and longtime stunt double. Go Jessie!

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/162 "2017-01-31T20:06:42Z")

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By the way–was the mad scientist ever named? If not, he could easily be Professor Ivo who invented Amazo had a secondary shtick of duplicating heroes powers in himself and others.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/163 "2017-01-31T23:15:23Z")

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Has Mon-El’s vulnerability to lead been established on the show yet? I don’t remember hearing it mentioned yet this season.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/164 "2017-01-31T23:37:00Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> Has Mon-El’s vulnerability to lead been established on the show yet? I don’t remember hearing it mentioned yet this season.

Lilian Luthor threatened to shoot him when he and Kara were imprisoned by CADMUS.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/165 "2017-02-01T00:02:07Z")

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Did you think there were possible hints of Supergirl losing control of her powers?

She accidentally hurt the guard and crushed that ‘toy’ (no actually it is expensive).

I understand that within the context of the episode it was supposed to be her being angry but maybe it was more than that. Supergirl, like Superman, are very careful to keep their strength under control. Superman losing control of his powers has shown up from time to time in the comics.

Any thoughts?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/166 "2017-02-01T02:45:16Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Lilian Luthor threatened to shoot him when he and Kara were imprisoned by CADMUS.

But weren’t they in some kind of special prison cell that robbed them of their powers? Wouldn’t matter _what_ the bullet was made out of, if they weren’t bulletproof any more.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/167 "2017-02-01T14:22:56Z")

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Fenris wrote: “I hated this episode. Kara isn’t (or shouldn’t be) stupid. She’s 20 years younger than Jimmy Olsen and completely unrelated to him. He’s a grown-up man and it’s condescending (with a vaguely racist subtext) for her to be telling him what he can and cannot do with his life.”

Kryptonians can be that way.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/168 "2017-02-01T17:21:19Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> But weren’t they in some kind of special prison cell that robbed them of their powers? Wouldn’t matter _what_ the bullet was made out of, if they weren’t bulletproof any more.

As I recall, Lillian mentioned Mon-El’s unique vulnerability as she was threatening to shoot him.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/169 "2017-02-02T19:11:55Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Fenris wrote: “I hated this episode. Kara isn’t (or shouldn’t be) stupid. She’s 20 years younger than Jimmy Olsen and completely unrelated to him. He’s a grown-up man and it’s condescending (with a vaguely racist subtext) for her to be telling him what he can and cannot do with his life.”
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> Kryptonians can be that way.

Unlike Clark, Kara actually had a Kryptonian upbringing, which means that she can (for example) have a prejudice against Daxamites and be pretty darn condescending to non-super-powered folks in general.

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/170 "2017-02-02T19:18:18Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> I still hate Himbo Mon-El (and…why _is_ he called “Mon-El”? His name is Lar Gand and was only named Mon-El because of a convenient '60s bonk-on-the-head=amnesia plot contrived to make Superboy think Lar was his older brother. So why’s he called it here?

Maybe it’s not Mon-El, but M’Onel, like it was in the comics that one time? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/171 "2017-02-02T20:15:56Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> Maybe it’s not Mon-El, but M’Onel, like it was in the comics that one time? 🙂

Oh god…I’d forgotten/blocked that memory (“M’Onel is Martian for Hope” or some such).

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**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/172 "2017-02-02T21:10:16Z")

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In the comics – at least, during the Silver/Bronze Ages – Daxamites, unlike Kryptonians exposed to kryptonite, did not recover when the lead that weakened them was taken away. That’s why Superboy had to project Mon-El into the Phantom Zone to save his life. Once he was exposed to lead, he was doomed, until Brainiac 5 invented a cure ten centuries later.

I assume that’s not true of Daxamites in the CWverse.

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**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/173 "2017-02-02T21:13:55Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> By the way–was the mad scientist ever named? If not, he could easily be Professor Ivo who invented Amazo had a secondary shtick of duplicating heroes powers in himself and others.

IMDB just credits him as “Mad Scientist.” I like your idea.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/174 "2017-02-07T08:11:15Z")

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Hey, look, it’s Agent Vasquez! She was my favorite ascended extra of the first season. She went missing when the show moved to Vancouver. It’s great to see her again.

I’m a bit disappointed that Jimmy’s broken coffee table wasn’t mentioned. (In case you missed it, Vibe and Gypsy smashed it while they were fighting interdimensionally on _The Flash_.) But since Jimmy Olsen never appeared in this episode, I guess we can be thankful for small favors.

This episode had so much potential with the paranoia of not knowing who was the White Martian amongst them. But then they had to saddle it with so much relationship drama. Kara and Mon-El. Kara and Alex. Alex and Maggie. J’onn and M’gann. Sheesh.

Mon-El makes three out of three that Kara has friendzoned. Is this some sort of pattern?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/175 "2017-02-07T13:41:57Z")

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This ep was about 10,000 times better than the last one. Everyone was mostly mature (except Supergirl who still has issues, but that’s becoming pretty much part of her character), the paranoia stuff

I _would_ like to know the status of Fire vs Martians in a little more detail (both here and in the DCU). Originally pre-Crisis you could take the MM out with a match because he loses all his powers and becomes weak\*. This is stupid but easy. Post Crisis they’ve changed it like 50 times: it’s all psychological and only to J’Onn because he had to burn his family in a pyre. All Martians have the same psychological disorder. It’s a mix of allergic/psychological. Something-something H"Ronmeer the God did something=fire bad. Final revision before the New 52 reboot (that I’m aware of) was back to the start when in Morrison’s JLA humanity defeated a horde of white Martians by everyone holding up lit candles (awsome scene). I don’t know what it’s post-Flashpoint status was.

Since they introduced it, I hope they spend 2 or 3 sentences explaining the mechanics a tiny bit.

Who’s the third guy that Kara friendzoned: Jimmy (who’s 25 years old too old for her) and Mon-El (who’s an annoying himbo). Did she friendzone Wynn? (If so, mistake. He’s the only male she knows who’s the right age who’s not a douche)

\*Mars didn’t have fire, they had some sort of blue lightning-plasma stuff.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/176 "2017-02-07T13:53:28Z")

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I enjoyed this last episode, but I really wish it had been more action-oriented and less angsty / relationshipy . SHEESH!! Too much of that gets old, really fast…

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/177 "2017-02-07T14:11:23Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Who’s the third guy that Kara friendzoned: Jimmy (who’s 25 years old too old for her) and Mon-El (who’s an annoying himbo). Did she friendzone Wynn? (If so, mistake. He’s the only male she knows who’s the right age who’s not a douche)

Yes, Kara friendzoned Winn as she had the hots for Jimmy at the time. This was even before they discovered that he was the Toyman’s son. He did alright for himself, though; he got to do the nasty with Silver Banshee. I agree that Winn makes a good match for Kara. Also, he makes for a better Jimmy than don’t-call-me-Jimmy.

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/178 "2017-02-07T14:11:36Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Who’s the third guy that Kara friendzoned: Jimmy (who’s 25 years old too old for her) and Mon-El (who’s an annoying himbo). Did she friendzone Wynn? (If so, mistake. He’s the only male she knows who’s the right age who’s not a douche)

It was Wynn, who confessed that he was in love with Kara even before learning that she had super powers.

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/179 "2017-02-07T16:06:14Z")

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Decent episode but there are just too many questions left out in the open. Questions like:

1. Why did Supergirl duck when the White Martian sprayed the fire across everyone?

2. Why Bare Naked Ladies?

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**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-2/768236/180 "2017-02-07T17:07:00Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Decent episode but there are just too many questions left out in the open. Questions like:
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> 1. Why did Supergirl duck when the White Martian sprayed the fire across everyone?

I wonder how much social conditioning has affected Kara: she probably has a lot of human mannerisms and “do what everyone else in the room is doing” is instinctual in people.

Then again, Superman regularly takes a full clip from a handgun and then ducks when the gun is thrown at him. The usual reason for that is that George Reeves is not actually being shot, but is actually having a prop thrown at him, and he doesn’t want to get smacked with it. Melissa Benoist probably doesn’t want second degree burns any more than the rest of the cast.

> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> 1. Why Bare Naked Ladies?

Why not, they are awesome!

Also, they get to make the “One Week” quip right before Alex rushes off to call Maggie and apologize for missing the concert.  
My question is: Why, when there are mere minutes left to find a guy before half the city gets vaporized, do the protagonists take long drawn out moments to have drama about their feelings instead of continuing the search. Geez guys, sort out your problems during therapy, not during the “keep millions from dying” part of your life.

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