# Supergirl Season 4

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 10, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747 "2018-10-10T12:54:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/121 "2019-05-05T13:48:08Z")

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Will The Real Miss Tessmacher Please Stand Up? promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/qrn3zlK8FYY)

**MISS TESSMACHER RETURNS WITH A VENGEANCE** - _Kara and Lena head to Kaznia to hunt down Lex. However, Eve Tessmacher (guest star Andrea Brooks) sets a trap for the duo that could ultimately reveal that Kara is Supergirl. Meanwhile, Alex gets a long-awaited phone call, James practices using his powers, and Ben Lockwood takes a dangerous stand inside the DEO._

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/122 "2019-05-06T12:42:02Z")

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Have I mentioned how much I like it when we get to see Kara using her powers while trying to maintain her cover? Because I really, really like it and we got to see her do it again this week. This time she had to save a whole plane that she and Lena were riding. It was a bit of a cop out that the plane was automated (wouldn’t the FAA have something to say about that?) and so Lena very conveniently had to go to the cockpit to manually land the plane, leaving Kara alone in the passenger cabin. Still made for a good bit of comedy when Lena found Kara “passed out” in the back. At the end there was also a Christopher Reeve moment when Kara was about to reveal herself to Lena but then thought better of it. We got to see her take her glasses off and transform into Supergirl purely by posture, and then put her glasses back on and transform back into Kara again by posture alone.

Speaking of cop outs, dénouement of the Ben Lockwood and the D.E.O. conflict was pretty much J’onn ex machina. Really, really convenient that J’onn returned to Earth at that very moment.

As for the Alex subplot, why would the writers choose this moment to revisit Alex’s desire to have a child. That whole interlude was just a distraction to the two main storylines. Also, I don’t particularly care that they seem to be setting up Alex with Jimmy Olsen’s sister.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/123 "2019-05-09T04:27:33Z")

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I’m bingeing and now in S4, so just jumping into something that’s bothered me in this series before but is really getting on my nerves now: in general, treatment of the military has been totally absurd, but right now it’s really pissing me off that since this colonel whasername took control of DEO, suddenly Alex is “a soldier” and apparently so is Supergirl (well, not by the chapter I’m watching, right now she’s “fired”… can you be fired from voluntary cooperation? Because either they pay her in an envelope or it’s voluntary cooperation, not work and not a job). No grade given, ever, and the only prior mentions of military grades or personnel in the DEO has been back when general whasisname took over for John Jones (I know it’s not spelled like that but damn those DC character creators really needed a bit more imagination with names).

WHAT SOLDIER WHEN WHERE DAMNIT  
Oh, and mucho girl power but the military male officers get to be generals and the military female officers get to be a major (who doesn’t so much as give an order to dust those bookshelves) and a colonel.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/124 "2019-05-09T06:34:07Z")

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**Nava** : See post #43ff, where we start wondering about Col Haley, the D.E.O. and Kara’s relationship with them.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/125 "2019-05-12T12:42:33Z")

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Red Dawn promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/8572oTnwRZw)

**SUPERGIRL BATTLES RED DAUGHTER** - _Kara comes face to face with Red Daughter and the two engage in an epic battle. Determined to find a way to extract the Harun-El, Lena turns to an unlikely source for help - Lillian Luthor (guest star Brenda Strong). Meanwhile, Alex realizes she’s missing parts of her memory, and Brainy, Nia and J’onn set out to track down aliens who have been abducted by Lex._

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/126 "2019-05-13T06:25:20Z")

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I was wondering when we’d get around to addressing Alex’s missing memories. Cool that they brought back teenage Alex and Kara. I’m a little disappointed that the issue seems to be over and done with so quickly. It would have been better and more dramatic, I think, if Alex had slowly started to regain her memories throughout the season.

So is that it for Luthor’s false flag operation? Is that it for Krasnaya Doch? If super powered Lex in a supersuit can defeat her so easily, what does that mean for Kara? And has Brainiac 5 gone full evil ancestral Brainiac?

This season has been really good. Possibly the best of this season’s Arrowverse shows.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/127 "2019-05-13T06:36:26Z")

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I thought the strangest bit was when Kara pulled sunlight out of the plants, but apparently Superman has done it in _The Dark Knight Returns_.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/128 "2019-05-19T11:07:35Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> I was wondering when we’d get around to addressing Alex’s missing memories. Cool that they brought back teenage Alex and Kara. I’m a little disappointed that the issue seems to be over and done with so quickly. It would have been better and more dramatic, I think, if Alex had slowly started to regain her memories throughout the season.
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> So is that it for Luthor’s false flag operation? Is that it for Krasnaya Doch? If super powered Lex in a supersuit can defeat her so easily, what does that mean for Kara? And has Brainiac 5 gone full evil ancestral Brainiac?
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> This season has been really good. Possibly the best of this season’s Arrowverse shows.

Right now, Lex’s plan has a huge problem - all Supergirl has to do to reveal it is show up in public, and Lex and the President’s credibility take a huge hit. But I suspect Lex has a plan for that too.

Gutsy move on the part of Red Daughter to use Kryptonite as a weapon against Kara.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/129 "2019-05-19T13:18:28Z")

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The Quest for Peace promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/yJfbA79h06E)

**LEX LUTHOR RETURNS** - _Lex Luthor (guest star Jon Cryer) descends upon Washington, DC and summons Lena and Lillian Luthor (guest star Brenda Strong) to the White House. Supergirl realizes she has one last chance to stop Lex and turns to the power of the press to help her._

The episode title has to be reference to Jon Cryer’s previous role on _Superman IV_.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/130 "2019-05-20T08:24:12Z")

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A great finale to cap off a great season. Perhaps the only sour note was that the “power of the press” scene was overly simplistic. In this age of trolls farms and fake news, the good citizens of Earth-38 were too willing to believe the latest thing their smart phones told them, whether it be Lex’s false flag operation or Kara’s article exonerating Supergirl. Still, we’re talking about a series whose protagonist’s primary means of solving problems is to punch them into submission.

I was anticipating Brainy, having gone full BRAINIAC, would become the Big Bad for the next season, which would have been awesome. But he came back rather too quickly. Instead, it looks like Lena might be going full Luthor. I don’t know how I feel about that. Also, **Miss Tessmacher!** is revealed to have her own agenda. That part I like.

The Monitor appears to have big plans for Earth-38. Bringing in another Green Martian who’s after J’onn, and seemingly reviving Lex. What’s his game?

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/131 "2019-05-20T14:59:50Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> I was anticipating Brainy, having gone full BRAINIAC, would become the Big Bad for the next season, which would have been awesome. But he came back rather too quickly.  
> The Monitor appears to have big plans for Earth-38.

I also wish that BRAINIAC would have become the Big Bad for next season, but there’s always the chance that, possibly through the Monitor’s machinations in the Multiverse (say that three times fast) we’ll get to see a BRAINIAC from another universe.

By the way, BRAINIAC sounded like Rod Serling, which was cool.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/132 "2019-06-01T14:54:27Z")

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Finally caught up. Pretty sure I don’t like the introduction of the standard trope evil shadow organization Leviathan that Miss Tessmacher was apparently working for all along (although maybe she really did fall for Lex).

Otherwise, a nice wrap up to the season, and breadcrumbs for next year.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-season-4/822747/133 "2019-06-03T22:23:16Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> I thought the strangest bit was when Kara pulled sunlight out of the plants, but apparently Superman has done it in _The Dark Knight Returns_.

^That was the strangest bit. It put me in mind of _Avatar_.

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