# Supergirl trailer out

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [May 13, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982 "2015-05-13T23:32:50Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/61 "2015-05-15T18:02:46Z")

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I believe that’s because he’s being sincere.

Or, wait, if you don’t get the username reference, then here you go:

> **[The Left Hand of Darkness](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Left_Hand_of_Darkness)**
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> The Left Hand of Darkness is a science fiction novel by U.S. writer Ursula K. Le Guin. Published in 1969, it became immensely popular, and established Le Guin's status as a major author of science fiction. The novel is set in the fictional Hainish universe as part of the Hainish Cycle, a series of novels and short stories by Le Guin, which she introduced in the 1964 short story "The Dowry of Angyar". It was fourth in sequence of writing among the Hainish novels, preceded by City of Illusions, ...

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### Author: ![Teach-me-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a4c791/32.png) [@Teach-me-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teach-me-not)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/62 "2015-05-15T18:05:39Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> To Supergirl, that would feel empty so her acting is dead on. Do I win a No Prize?

😕

not getting this ☹

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### Author: ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/63 "2015-05-15T18:07:17Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …I think that this was one of these “industry” trailers, I watched a whole bunch of them a few months ago when I accidentally watched the wrong thing and they all just kept on showing up in my playlist. This one for example for the Mysteries of Laura (Spoilers)…

Still kinda proves my point though, it spoiled the whole series

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/64 "2015-05-15T18:12:51Z")

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> [@Teach-me-not](#):
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> 😕
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> not getting this ☹

The [Marvel no-prize](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_No-Prize)?

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/65 "2015-05-15T18:50:21Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> I need to stand up and say … (OK. I’m standing now) …
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> **What a Great name you chose! So Very Very Excellent! Powerful too!**

Thank you!

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### Author: ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/66 "2015-05-15T19:20:02Z")

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Jimmy Olsen is black? Well, okay but he’s supposed be wimpy. Is he going to have a watch that emits the "zee zee zee " sound when he needs his buddy Superman?

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/67 "2015-05-15T19:23:09Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Jimmy Olsen is black? Well, okay but he’s supposed be wimpy. Is he going to have a watch that emits the "zee zee zee " sound when he needs his buddy Superman?

I think Jimmy Olsen was originally white because everybody was white, unless their entire character was built around being black. Frankly I would’ve preferred if Supergirl was black, but you can’t always get what you want.

And the transition from nerdy wimp to hunk is kind of a fun change. I liked the line where she called him Jimmy, and he corrected her to James.

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### Author: ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/68 "2015-05-15T19:28:31Z")

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Great Caesar’s ghost, we can’t have a hunky Jimmy Olsen!

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/69 "2015-05-15T19:39:49Z")

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Just another example of geeky little white boy shaming. I thought our culture had grown beyond it.

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/70 "2015-05-15T19:43:59Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Just another example of geeky little white boy shaming. I thought our culture had grown beyond it.

Uh, no.

1. If they kept him as a geeky little white boy who was there for humor value, that’d maybe count as geeky little white boy shaming. They didn’t.
2. Geeky white boys are kind of culture heroes at this point, ranging from Bill Gates to Frodo to Peter Parker.
3. Changing the character to black makes the cast less monochromatic. It still looks to be overwhelmingly white, and Olsen is in danger of being renamed Token, but hopefully they won’t go in that direction.

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### Author: ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/71 "2015-05-15T20:51:13Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Uh, no.
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> 1. If they kept him as a geeky little white boy who was there for humor value, that’d maybe count as geeky little white boy shaming. They didn’t.
> 2. Geeky white boys are kind of culture heroes at this point, ranging from Bill Gates to Frodo to Peter Parker.
> 3. Changing the character to black makes the cast less monochromatic. It still looks to be overwhelmingly white, and Olsen is in danger of being renamed Token, but hopefully they won’t go in that direction.

You might want to adjust your snarkmeter.

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### Author: ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/72 "2015-05-15T21:01:16Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Help a comic newbie out with timelines and whatnot: She’s a little girl when she leaves Krypton, and Kal-El is a baby, but yet she’s younger than Superman on Earth?

The classic (1960s-70s) version of Supergirl’s origin: When the planet Krypton exploded, one city, named Argo, survived intact because it was completely sealed inside of an environmental bio-dome. It drifted for a couple of decades, until a meteor shower smashed the dome and exposed the kryptonite beneath the city’s foundations. Zor-El, Argo’s leading scientist and younger brother of Jor-El, put his 13-year-old daughter Kara into a small spaceship and sent her to Earth, where they had observed her cousin Kal-El as Superman through their telescopes.

Revised (21st century) version: Jor-El and Zor-El were brothers on Krypton, and Zor’s young daughter Kara occasionally babysat Jor’s infant son Kal. When Jor-El predicted Krypton’s explosion, his brother believed him, and both of them made preparations in secret, because space travel research was illegal on Krypton. Jor designed a warp drive to send his infant son to Earth. Zor created a much slower ship which would keep his daughter frozen in suspended animation until she reached her destination. By the time she arrived, her baby cousin had grown to adulthood, while she was still in her early teens.

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### Author: ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/73 "2015-05-15T21:21:37Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Still kinda proves my point though, it spoiled the whole series

…well, yeah, like the other examples I showed, that was what it was supposed to do.

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### Author: ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/74 "2015-05-15T21:43:35Z")

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I thought the trailer was meh. I’m not sure why. Didn’t hate it. I don’t know, I think I’ll wait a few weeks to decide if I’m going to watch.

I wait until the first season is almost over because I don’t have time to waste on shows I don’t like. There’s plenty of shows I could be watching, books I need to read, games to play, that there’s no sense in starting something if I’m not going to finish it.

I have a few places I trust for movies, etc. Here, the AV Club, and a couple of friends.

One guy got demoted because he liked Arrow on the CW better than Daredevil. I mean, I know the latter isn’t perfect but c’mon…

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2015, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/75 "2015-05-16T13:11:46Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> You might want to adjust your snarkmeter.

LHoD’s campaign for a rainbow superhero world is serious business!

But really, don’t see the point of calling a completely different character “James” Olsen.

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### Author: ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/76 "2015-05-16T21:58:01Z")

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The trailer opens with a mistake: her last name is not Zor-el, it’s El.

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/77 "2015-05-16T22:03:53Z")

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Nope. Kryptonian naming convention has the daughter taking her father’s name as a last name. From the very beginning, her name has been Kara Zor-El. Kara, daughter of Zor of the House of El.

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### Author: ![Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@Digital\_is\_the\_new\_Analog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_is_the_new_Analog)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/78 "2015-05-16T23:12:47Z")

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Looks like fun…except for the boss. I have so little patience for complete assholes like that. If there’s more than a tiny bit of her, I probably will skip the series.

But I’ll give it a shot.

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### Author: ![CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptainAmerica_1987)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/79 "2015-05-16T23:43:29Z")

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The only thing I’m wondering about is will they do a crossover with Arrow, Flash and DC’s Legends of Tomorrow?

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl-trailer-out/719982/80 "2015-05-17T00:03:34Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> LHoD’s campaign for a rainbow superhero world is serious business!

As rainbow as our world, yeah. As for the snarkmeter, my experience with levdrakon makes me think he’s not big on levity, but I could be wrong.

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