# Supergirl

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 27, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892 "2015-10-27T18:29:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/141 "2015-11-04T21:36:23Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Angel](#):
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> I thought maybe the knife was not Kryptonite, because how could these people not know about Kryptonite yet? When they shot Supergirl with Kryptonite needles, the explained it to her as if the substance needed no introduction.

When they shot Supergirl in the pilot, her sister explained it was Kryptonite. When her sister punched her in this episode, she again explained it was Kryptonite radiation. They know about Kryptonite. Superman has been active for over a decade by this point in time.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/142 "2015-11-04T21:59:42Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> When they shot Supergirl in the pilot, her sister explained it was Kryptonite. When her sister punched her in this episode, she again explained it was Kryptonite radiation. They know about Kryptonite. Superman has been active for over a decade by this point in time.

Superman and the DEO know about kryptonite, but apparently Kara and Astra just learned about it in these two episodes when it was used on them. I’m guessing it will be the same if there are any other Kryptonians who were on the prison ship, unless Astra tells them about it. I don’t know enough of the comic book history to know if that’s accurate or not.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/143 "2015-11-04T23:40:31Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Angel](#):
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> I thought maybe the knife was not Kryptonite, because how could these people not know about Kryptonite yet? When they shot Supergirl with Kryptonite needles, the explained it to her as if the substance needed no introduction.

> [@amarinth](#):
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> I was wondering the same thing. I don’t think they ever actually said the knife was kryptonite, just that it was of unknown origin or something like that. I’ve not read that many of the books. Is there anything else other than kryptonite that can hurt them? Shards from some other planet, maybe?

It was glowing green which is shorthand for kryptonite.

There are other things that can hurt kryptonians, but I’ve never heard of shards of other planets doing it. Usually magic is the other big one.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/144 "2015-11-04T23:42:46Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Darn right I am. That was the best age of comics.
> 
> I thought it would be awesome if Flokhart’s character would have used “Great Caesar’s Ghost!” as an expletive as an homage to Perry White from the old Superman TV series. Only us old farts would get it but still…

“And, Mr. Olson?”  
“Yes, chief?”  
**“Don’t call me chief!”**

(Just finished Season 4 of that show… really fun!)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/145 "2015-11-05T01:49:58Z")

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> Man, I hope that promo shot isn’t how it turns out in the real thing. Some superheroes look damn goofy when translated to real life.

It’s Red Tornado. The lameness comes baked-in.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/146 "2015-11-05T17:04:07Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> It’s Red Tornado. The lameness comes baked-in.

My brother and I were talking about translating costumes onto live people versus going with more generic jumpsuits (like X-Men). Most costumes, as noted, really don’t work off the printed page, and many of them don’t even work on the printed page.

My brother also threw out an idea regarding Henshaw. While comic book readers know him as the villain, Cyborg Superman,he threw out the swerve in that he may be the Martian Manhunter, as a way of shaking things up and keeping comic readers on their toes and not spoilering (from the verb “to spoiler”) characters based on comic knowledge.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/147 "2015-11-05T17:56:52Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> …he threw out the swerve in that he may be the Martian Manhunter, as a way of shaking things up and keeping comic readers on their toes and not spoilering (from the verb “to spoiler”) characters based on comic knowledge.

Martian Manhunter was my immediate guess as well- I’m not sure why, other than it would be awesome. I guess we’ll have to keep our eyes peeled for an Oreo addiction.

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**Author:** ![Mavis\_Topholese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Mavis\_Topholese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavis_Topholese)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/148 "2015-11-05T17:59:15Z")

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I enjoy the show and am waiting for Streaky and Comet to make their triumphant appearances. And Beppo the Super Monkey.

Got a kick out of the DEO’s great plan to trap the Hellgrammite, which was charmingly low-tech: put some drums full of DDT on a truck, drive around the city, and when the Hellgrammite jumps on the truck, just start shooting at it with handguns. I guess they spent all their budget on the Supergirl Kryptonite Training Room and the Supergirl Talks To Mom room.

My guess is that glowing red eyes indicate Darkseid looking for the Anti-Life equation, and until I hear otherwise that’s what I’m going with.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/149 "2015-11-05T21:03:50Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Martian Manhunter was my immediate guess as well- I’m not sure why, other than it would be awesome.

Smallville?

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/150 "2015-11-05T21:14:01Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> My brother and I were talking about translating costumes onto live people versus going with more generic jumpsuits (like X-Men). Most costumes, as noted, really don’t work off the printed page, and many of them don’t even work on the printed page.
> 
> My brother also threw out an idea regarding Henshaw. While comic book readers know him as the villain, Cyborg Superman,he threw out the swerve in that he may be the Martian Manhunter, as a way of shaking things up and keeping comic readers on their toes and not spoilering (from the verb “to spoiler”) characters based on comic knowledge.

That would totally ruin years of canon for me. I know the Martian Manhunter as J’onn J’onzz, or John Jones, to use his Earthly identity.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/151 "2015-11-06T01:08:32Z")

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J’onn has used aliases before, including a long stretch impersonating a criminal named Marco Xavier.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/152 "2015-11-06T02:41:40Z")

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Anyone else bothered by the flashback to young Kara on Krypton, where the sunrays seemed distinctly yellow and the brief view of the Kryptonian sun appeared to be yellow? Krypton has a red sun, dammit.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/153 "2015-11-06T02:59:59Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> J’onn has used aliases before, including a long stretch impersonating a criminal named Marco Xavier.

Plus a long stretch impersonating _a mysterious black crimefighter,_ as Bloodwynd!

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/154 "2015-11-06T03:33:21Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Anyone else bothered by the flashback to young Kara on Krypton, where the sunrays seemed distinctly yellow and the brief view of the Kryptonian sun appeared to be yellow? Krypton has a red sun, dammit.

I’ve been mildly bothered by the fact that the actress playing young Kara doesn’t appear to be anywhere near 13 years old (the age Kara was stated to be when she left Krypton). She looks more like 10-11. Alas, her IMDB bio doesn’t provide her date of birth.

OTOH, it says that she speaks fluent German, Spanish, and English, which would be pretty impressive for a 10-year-old. But OTOOH, her name, “Malina Weissman”, suggests the possibility of a Spanish mother and a German father, so …

_shrug_

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/155 "2015-11-06T15:57:21Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Anyone else bothered by the flashback to young Kara on Krypton, where the sunrays seemed distinctly yellow and the brief view of the Kryptonian sun appeared to be yellow? Krypton has a red sun, dammit.

How about that she is a brunette and SG is blonde?

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/156 "2015-11-06T23:49:36Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Yeah, that did make his little “I just wanted to see if I could make it on my own” speech fall flat…

James was expecting to keep an eye on a superpowered non-superhero; he didn’t know that Kara was going to put him back in the position of “photographer of the alien superhero” almost immediately after he arrived.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/157 "2015-11-06T23:51:40Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> Superman and the DEO know about kryptonite, but apparently Kara and Astra just learned about it in these two episodes when it was used on them. I’m guessing it will be the same if there are any other Kryptonians who were on the prison ship, unless Astra tells them about it. I don’t know enough of the comic book history to know if that’s accurate or not.

Speaking of the DEO - do they know what Superman’s secret identity is?

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/158 "2015-11-10T07:57:24Z")

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The Big Guy finally showed up. I actually said, “Woah!” when he appeared. He really does change the whole dynamic of the show so I can see why the writers (and Kara) wouldn’t want to use him too often.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/159 "2015-11-10T08:39:32Z")

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Since when does nuclear power hurt a kryptonian on earth? Can’t they fly into the sun?

I understand that it would be lame and uninteresting if every villian of the week had kryptonite, but it’s even lamer when some random schmo off the street can blast her into submission with what amounts to a mundane ray gun. She’s friggin’ invulnerable! Even worse, this random human schmoe with no superpowers is an enemy so formidable that not even Superman has been able to defeat him in hand to hand combat? Seriously?

The worst had to be: “We came up with an ingenious and clever plan to defeat him: Aim for the big glowing power source on his suit.” Good grief.

I’m not sure her adorableness can overcome this amount of cheese.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/160 "2015-11-10T08:45:29Z")

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James needs to learn to say “Supes” or “Kal,” instead of “Clark.”

Then, I was bemused at Kara getting angry at James over calling in Kal. Someone saves you from possibly lethal trouble and you yell at him? But that is like how Alex reacted to her in the premiere! Yup, those two were raised in the same house.

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