# Supergirl

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 27, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892 "2015-10-27T18:29:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/161 "2015-11-10T09:07:42Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I’m not sure her adorableness can overcome this amount of cheese.

I don’t know; we’re talking serious, weapons-grade adorableness here.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/162 "2015-11-10T18:08:06Z")

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I don’t know whether this show or The Flash is worse about refusing to let the hero actually use his or her powers effectively. I know, I should just get over it. But it’s so irritating!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/163 "2015-11-10T18:41:03Z")

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I was bothered about her talking about the “S” on her chest when she previously explained it wasn’t an “S”, it was the family crest.

Her defeating the dude with the nuclear chest gadget was a bit lame. Supes should have figured it out earlier and defeated him.

Seems very out of character for Clark and Kara to communicate via texting. Or that Clark would risk the communication being bugged and their identities exposed.

On the plus side, the two sisters fighting over the last bit of food and Kara throwing a pillow was a nice light moment. On the minus side, I’d rather see Kara and Win as a couple than her and James.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/164 "2015-11-10T20:34:37Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Even worse, this random human schmoe with no superpowers is an enemy so formidable that not even Superman has been able to defeat him in hand to hand combat? Seriously?

I’m willing to cut them some slack on this one. Face it, with super-speed and invulnerability, very few bad guys could even get started against a Kryptonian. Kal or Kara could zip up, field-strip him of everything including his fillings and be across town saving a kitten before he could blink. If the writers allowed them to fully utilize their powers, the comics and the show would become very boring.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/165 "2015-11-11T00:11:58Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> On the minus side, I’d rather see Kara and Win as a couple than her and James.

Well, she may get there eventually. Looks like Lucy’s in town for a bit, and she may pull James back in.

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/166 "2015-11-11T13:27:18Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I’m willing to cut them some slack on this one. Face it, with super-speed and invulnerability, very few bad guys could even get started against a Kryptonian. Kal or Kara could zip up, field-strip him of everything including his fillings and be across town saving a kitten before he could blink. If the writers allowed them to fully utilize their powers, the comics and the show would become very boring.

Fair point, but at the same time intentionally hamstringing the superhero doesn’t make sense either.

Reactron (which I agree is a stupid name) is throwing ranged attacks? Hmm, what ranged attacks does Supergirl have… she’s even used her eye lasers before, and if she was worried about sawing the bad guy in half (I suppose killing the villians is a line she doesn’t want to cross), she could be using her freeze breath.

But yes, Kara should be one of the 5 fastest people in the galaxy, that she doesn’t use her super speed is a bit of an oversight. You could make a show out of it - where someone points out that her cousin is ultra-fast and strong, etc, why isn’t she, and then have a training montage where she practices her super speed, tests the limits of her super-strength, practices finesse with her heat vision, etc.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/167 "2015-11-11T14:33:52Z")

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> Man, I hope that promo shot isn’t how it turns out in the real thing. Some superheroes look damn goofy when translated to real life.

Good lord…I’ve heard people give modern cinematic Superman and Spider-Man costumes snark for their texturing, but this guy? It’s like a jade burial suit—he’s become more tile than man!

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/168 "2015-11-11T14:58:56Z")

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> … But yes, Kara should be one of the 5 fastest people in the galaxy, that she doesn’t use her super speed is a bit of an oversight. You could make a show out of it - where someone points out that her cousin is ultra-fast and strong, etc, why isn’t she, and then have a training montage where she practices her super speed…

[I can haz crossover?](http://www.mexicobonita.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Grant-Gustin-The-Flash-y-Melissa-Benoist-Supergirl.png)

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/169 "2015-11-11T15:34:57Z")

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Is it just me or does Calista seem to have not aged?

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/170 "2015-11-11T16:55:34Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Is it just me or does Calista seem to have not aged?

Hollywood, maybe?

By gosh, it has been a long time hasn’t it, from the “Ally McBeal” show? I just recalled the personal events of my life connected with the timing of the show’s debut.

I’ll have to look up Callista Flockhart for DOB.

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ETA without editing post:

BY GOSH! She just turned 51! Veterans Day, '64.

2661 exactly weeks ago today…

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/171 "2015-11-11T19:34:52Z")

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I’ve given up on it already. Can’t stand the sister and the whole secret ops thing not to mention all the contrived personal conflicts and smug Jimmy. And SG would have to be some sort of masochist to gladly take shit off of Calista Flockhart. Watched half of yesterday’s show, and wondered why she didn’t follow that guy when he was powered down and flew away, or at least burn his suit off with her eyes. My SOD done broke.

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/172 "2015-11-11T20:39:49Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> “And, Mr. Olson?”  
> “Yes, chief?”  
> **“Don’t call me chief!”**
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> (Just finished Season 4 of that show… really fun!)

[Linky link here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUeqIXOh54)…

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/173 "2015-11-11T20:45:03Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Darn right I am…

🙂

Yeah, some folks will put you down for being hung up on Shakespeare… Tell you to live in modern times… Yeah, right.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/174 "2015-11-11T21:32:56Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I’ve given up on it already. Can’t stand the sister and the whole secret ops thing not to mention all the contrived personal conflicts and smug Jimmy. And SG would have to be some sort of masochist to gladly take shit off of Calista Flockhart. Watched half of yesterday’s show, and wondered why she didn’t follow that guy when he was powered down and flew away, or at least burn his suit off with her eyes. My SOD done broke.

It is a little tough the SG is carried a large idiot ball in this last episode. But I will give it a little more time.

As to the Calista Flockhart bit, I think Kara respects the achievements of Cat Grant and would like to work her way up in the news game. That I can buy.

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**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/175 "2015-11-12T16:58:04Z")

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> …  
> But yes, Kara should be one of the 5 fastest people in the galaxy, that she doesn’t use her super speed is a bit of an oversight…

Once she gets above mach 1, then she becomes a serious hazard to the environment just traveling. Rescuing kittens on the east and west coasts within 5 minutes doesn’t mean much if she leaves a wake of shattered windows, deafened people, and flattened forests in between. To do the east-to-west coast travel in 5 minutes, she literally turns into a significant meteor fireball trailing a swath of Tunguska explosions behind her.

Heck, even if she “blinks” a short distance of 50 feet to get behind an enemy in a small-scale fight, she can still create a bomb-sized shockwave just as a side-effect of moving.

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/176 "2015-11-12T17:39:40Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> Once she gets above mach 1, then she becomes a serious hazard to the environment just traveling. Rescuing kittens on the east and west coasts within 5 minutes doesn’t mean much if she leaves a wake of shattered windows, deafened people, and flattened forests in between. To do the east-to-west coast travel in 5 minutes, she literally turns into a significant meteor fireball trailing a swath of Tunguska explosions behind her.
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> Heck, even if she “blinks” a short distance of 50 feet to get behind an enemy in a small-scale fight, she can still create a bomb-sized shockwave just as a side-effect of moving.

All you said is true, but she doesn’t have to go mach 20 to close the distance with a bad guy, strip off his helmet, and punch him in the face faster than he can react. I’m pretty sure that going “merely” 500 mph would have won her fight with reactron on the highway in about 10 seconds. (Of course, that’s why she doesn’t use her superspeed. Not interesting for plot reasons).

In the junkyard, who cares if she’s making mini-sonic booms? Maxwell Lord had already booked it, the junk doesn’t care if it gets dented, and it’s only helping her distract and disable Reactron.

Plus, it’s a comic book show. I’m pretty sure Flash doesn’t destroy any buildings when he runs from one side of Central City to the other in 0.2 seconds.

ETA: [A demonstration of my last point](https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/4619806.html)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/177 "2015-11-12T17:52:38Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> Heck, even if she “blinks” a short distance of 50 feet to get behind an enemy in a small-scale fight, she can still create a bomb-sized shockwave just as a side-effect of moving.

Even better. You get two effects for the price of one. Strip the bad guy of anything problematical and blast him through a Buick at the same time. 😛

**yjc** - Love that strip!

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/178 "2015-11-12T18:04:08Z")

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I was amused that Kara could recognize Reactron’s pre-accident face from a photograph, just because of the contrast between that and how oblivious everyone else is to Kara’s identity.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/179 "2015-11-12T19:34:05Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Kal or Kara could zip up, field-strip him of everything including his fillings and be across town saving a kitten before he could blink.

Or a boa constrictor, or python, or whatever “Fluffy” was last week…  
It bothers me too when the characters don’t follow up on their advantage when they knock someone down.

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**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supergirl/735892/180 "2015-11-14T01:00:30Z")

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I’ve given up already. After episode 1, I was excited about this new show with potential, especially its magnificently adorable lead. Two weeks later, I’m done. I wish I cared enough to detail why.

Dear TV writers, please let the characters decide the plot, rather than letting the plot force the characters into unrelenting stupidity for the sake of dumb-ass cliches.

Melissa Benoist is too good for this crap.

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