# Superhero Madness (Round 4)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 22, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332 "2008-07-22T03:17:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/1 "2008-07-22T03:17:35Z")

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Based on ArizonaTeach’s idea.

The rules are simple. Pick one competitor in each match-up - the one with the higher total goes on to the next round and the losers get dumped in the dollar bin. You can base your vote on any criteria you like. You can pass on a match-up if you choose. Anyone is eligible to play in any or all rounds but you can only vote once in each round. The voting for this round will end at 11:00 pm (EST) on Wednesday.

The numbers are the results from Round 3.

Batman (16-4)  
Wonder Woman (11-9)

Wolverine (13-7)  
Martian Manhunter (Jonn J’onzz) (10-9-1)

Spider-Man (16-4)  
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) (13-7)

Superman (15-5)  
Hellboy (10-9-1)

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/2 "2008-07-22T03:56:03Z")

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Batman

Wolverine

Spider-Man (this was a toughie)

Hellboy (Die, Superman! Die, die, die!!)

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/3 "2008-07-22T04:26:40Z")

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Wonder Woman  
Martian Manhunter (Jonn J’onzz)  
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)  
Superman

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/4 "2008-07-22T06:38:23Z")

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You really don’t waste any time closing these rounds…

Batman (16-4)

Wolverine (13-7)

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) (13-7)

Hellboy (10-9-1)

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**Author:** ![DfrntBreign](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@DfrntBreign](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DfrntBreign)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/5 "2008-07-22T07:37:46Z")

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Batman

Martian Manhunter (Jonn J’onzz)

Spider-Man

Superman

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/6 "2008-07-22T12:21:16Z")

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Batman (16-4)

Wolverine (13-7)

Spider-Man (16-4)

Superman (15-5)

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/7 "2008-07-22T13:59:08Z")

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Batman

Martian Manhunter (Jonn J’onzz)

Spider-Man

Hellboy

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/8 "2008-07-22T15:12:20Z")

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Batman

Wolverine (13-7)

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) (13-7)

Superman (15-5)

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/9 "2008-07-22T15:16:09Z")

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oh, what the hell… haven’t done one of these before, but why not…

Batman (very easy)

Wolverine (not as easy)

Spider-Man (tough)

Superman (easy)

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/10 "2008-07-22T15:44:54Z")

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Wonder Woman (very tough call)

Martian Manhunter (Jonn J’onzz) (In memoram, and not a very tough call)

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) (I like DC. So sue me.)

Hellboy (I don’t like DC -that- much.)

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/11 "2008-07-22T16:29:20Z")

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My picks are highlighted in red.

Batman (16-4)  
Wonder Woman (11-9)

Wonder Woman is one of my four favorites from this group, but falls victim to the bracketing. As a kid, I played with a toy Batmobile that would probably now be worth several hundred dollars had I possessed the foresight to leave it mint in box.

Wolverine (13-7)  
Martian Manhunter (Jonn J’onzz) (10-9-1)

[Diana Prince](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Prince) would have beaten either of these two. Wolverine strikes me as overrated, while J’onn languishes in undeserved obscurity.

Spider-Man (16-4)  
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) (13-7)

If for nothing else, Spidey wins for that memorable Kirsten Dunst scene in the 2002 film…

Superman (15-5)  
Hellboy (10-9-1)

Gotta strike a blow for truth, justice, and the American way! Plus I grew up around Cleveland, where Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster [met and began their collaboration.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Shuster)

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**Author:** ![Hugh\_Jass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@Hugh\_Jass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hugh_Jass)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/12 "2008-07-22T17:01:01Z")

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Batman (16-4)

Martian Manhunter (Jonn J’onzz) (10-9-1)  
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) (13-7)

Superman (15-5)

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/13 "2008-07-22T17:07:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Sternvogel]

Gotta strike a blow for truth, justice, and the American way!  
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An interresting side-note: On the old-time radio station I listen to, they’ve been playing the Superman radio serial. In said early incarnation, Superman fought for ‘Truth and Justice’. Nothing is said about ‘The American Way’. In addition to this, I find it pretty remarkable that their big thrust with their message to kids is anti-racism, anti-bigorty, and inclusiveness. Their ‘Hey gang!’ message of the week is almost always a ‘don’t look down on other people because they have a different race, religion, or place of birth, and snub bullies who do that very thing’ one. I’m rather impressed, given the time period.

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**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/14 "2008-07-22T19:37:46Z")

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Batman (16-4)

Wolverine (13-7)

Spider-Man (16-4)

Superman (15-5)

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/15 "2008-07-22T21:06:14Z")

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Batman (16-4)

Martian Manhunter (Jonn J’onzz) (10-9-1)  
Raw power carried this fight.

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) (13-7)  
Raw power carried this fight.  
Superman (15-5)  
Raw power carried this fight, cause Hellboy has a gun, but no magical attacks.

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/16 "2008-07-22T21:32:45Z")

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I didn’t find any of these to be particularly difficult choices.

Batman (16-4)

Wolverine (13-7)

Spider-Man (16-4)

Superman (15-5)

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/17 "2008-07-22T21:39:08Z")

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I’m not going back through all the threads to research this, but maybe someone could answer for me real quick.

Didn’t ArizonaTeach originally set it up so that a dark horse or two could make it to the finals (wasn’t that the ’ . . . with a twist’ part)? These are 8 of the most popular superheroes ever.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/18 "2008-07-22T21:57:39Z")

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Batman (16-4)

Wolverine (13-7)

Spider-Man (16-4)

Superman (15-5)  
I feel odd voting for Batman because I’ve read so few of his comics directly. But I’ve seen the movies and TV shows and he has such a presence that he’s appeared and/or influenced many of the titles that I _have_ read.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/19 "2008-07-22T22:05:48Z")

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Batman (16-4)

Martian Manhunter (Jonn J’onzz) (10-9-1)

Spider-Man (16-4)

Superman (15-5)

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-madness-round-4/457332/20 "2008-07-23T00:49:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Cisco]  
Didn’t ArizonaTeach originally set it up so that a dark horse or two could make it to the finals (wasn’t that the ’ . . . with a twist’ part)? These are 8 of the most popular superheroes ever.  
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That was the original idea, yes. This has just been a standard X Madness series. I’m game to try again with **ArizonaTeach** ’s version when time and house stress relent enough to make it feasible. The seeding is already done for it, and we can compare the outcomes.

I am not particularly happy with how this one is playing out, anyway.

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