# Superhero who kills without remorse **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 26, 2014, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550 "2014-10-26T06:48:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KevinEatsBacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/49beb7/32.png) [@KevinEatsBacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KevinEatsBacon)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/1 "2014-10-26T06:48:50Z")
So, I’ve been a lurker here few times around and decided to make an account and create this thread (I don’t even know if it’s the right place) since all I got from Google and any other sites is just the same answer over and over again. Anyway, here it goes… I need a recommendation on comic books, movies, cartoons, etc. about superhero (as the main protagonist) vigilante who kills his/her enemy without remorse. He/she choose prison as a first answer but then moves on to kill that person once they’ve reached the limit and when justice fails to punish them. (justice system apparently didn’t cover aliens and criminally insane genocidal maniac like Joker and Green Goblin) e.g. he/she killed man like The Joker because he commits manslaughter and genocide but he spares a robber whose only crimes are robbery and taking hostage in a spur of the moment. Also he/she doesn’t only kill the henchman, but also the big bad. Some of my favorite titles are are : The Authority, Watchmen, The Boys, Rising Stars, Fables, some Wolverine stuff I know that some of that titles are not even superhero titles but nevertheless I like them, apart from the “rape” and ‘Netorare’ scene in some of that titles. I also aware about Spidey’s body count, Superman’s time as Phantom Zone judge, Batman’s gun toting period, Spidey-ock, Wolverine, X-Men, and Wonder Woman body count, which is not what I’m seeking at the moment. I kinda like DC’s Kingdom Come but irritated by the reasoning it creates (somehow it’s all Magog’s fault for the nukes while it’s clear it’s not entirely his fault). I also like Wolverine attitude towards killing (“he deserves it”). ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/2 "2014-10-26T06:55:36Z")
There’s the old _Vigilante_ series. The _Deadshot_ mini-series. This theme is featured a great deal in _Suicide Squad_ ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/3 "2014-10-26T07:03:56Z")
[The Punisher](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punisher) [Hitman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitman_%28DC_Comics%29) ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/4 "2014-10-26T13:39:19Z")
One of the versions of [Shadowhawk](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowhawk#The_New_ShadowHawk) killed bad guys. Of course, this version was a robot, so he really couldn’t feel remorse. The original Shadowhawk initially broken the spines of villains who he felt had escaped justice. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/5 "2014-10-26T13:54:17Z")
> [@KevinEatsBacon](#): > > I also like Wolverine attitude towards killing (“he deserves it”). One of the reasons I quit reading comics was when they retconned Wolverine. He was initially just a straight up killer, no remorse. Then Marvel realized how popular he was and he started moaning about the “seeing the life go from someone’s eyes” and such, and people we’d seen him carve up, even faceless henchmen, turned out to have miraculously survived. There was a big to-do when Daredevil dropped Bullseye after the latter killed Elektra with no remorse. Since none of the events took (Bullseye recovered, Elektra was resurrected). ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/6 "2014-10-26T13:56:57Z")
The Spectre (who, amongst other events, turned the rapist Dr. Light into a candelabra, then set him on fire). Ditko’s Mr. A. The Comet (who disintegrated his foes with his death-ray vision). ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/7 "2014-10-26T14:03:06Z")
If anti-heroes count, one could also consider the [Scourge of the Underworld (or just Scourge)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scourge_of_the_Underworld). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/8 "2014-10-26T14:06:41Z")
[The Flying Man](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3glBey3XCU). Short film-9:24 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/9 "2014-10-26T14:46:29Z")
> [@KevinEatsBacon](#): > > I need a recommendation on comic books, movies, cartoons, etc. about superhero (as the main protagonist) vigilante who kills his/her enemy without remorse. Darkman. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/10 "2014-10-26T16:09:19Z")
Harrison Ford. In two different movies. What? Of course he’s a superhero! ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/11 "2014-10-26T16:53:46Z")
The X-Force books with Wolverine as the leader have plenty of killing. Deadpool kills all kinds of things. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/12 "2014-10-26T17:03:50Z")
Cowboy Bebop. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/13 "2014-10-26T17:10:34Z")
Sindbad’s not a superhero but he’s a popular folk character. However there’s a dark twist to his story. During one of his voyages Sindbad gets married. But his new wife dies shortly after the wedding. And Sindbad then finds out that the local custom is for the living survivor of a married couple to be interned with the dead one. Both of them are placed inside a large pit. The living one is given a loaf of bread and a jug of water so he or she can survive for a short while but they’re expected to die. But Sindbad manages to survive a year in the pit before escaping. How? He waits for new widows and widowers to be placed in the pit. And then as soon as the internment ceremony is over he comes out and kills them and takes their bread and water before they can consume them. He survives a year underground by murdering innocent people and stealing their bread and water. Not surprisingly, this scene didn’t get included in the Dreamworks movie. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/14 "2014-10-26T17:16:48Z")
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? THE SHADOW KNOWS! ah-ha-HA-ha-ha-HA! The weed of crime bears bitter fruit! ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/15 "2014-10-26T18:39:50Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? > > THE SHADOW KNOWS! ah-ha-HA-ha-ha-HA! > > The weed of crime bears bitter fruit! Also the Avenger, and the Spider. > **[Avenger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenger_(character))** > > Avenger(s) or The Avenger(s) may refer to: > **[Spider (pulp fiction character)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_(pulp_fiction))** > > The Spider is an American pulp-magazine hero of the 1930s and 1940s. The character was created by publisher Harry Steeger and written by a variety of authors for 118 monthly issues of The Spider from 1933 to 1943. The Spider sold well during the 1930s, and copies are valued by modern pulp magazine collectors. Pulp magazine historian Ed Hulse has stated "Today, hero-pulp fans value The Spider more than any single-character magazine except for The Shadow and Doc Savage." > The Spider was created in ... ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/16 "2014-10-26T19:05:25Z")
The OP has mentioned Watchmen but Rorschach has got to be the epitome of a don’t-give-a-fuck good guy killer. From what I’ve read, he isn’t really supposed to be a good guy. He’s vigilantism run a muck. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/17 "2014-10-26T20:49:20Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > The OP has mentioned Watchmen but Rorschach has got to be the epitome of a don’t-give-a-fuck good guy killer. From what I’ve read, he isn’t really supposed to be a good guy. He’s vigilantism run a muck. That depends on how you see it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![KevinEatsBacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/49beb7/32.png) [@KevinEatsBacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KevinEatsBacon)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/18 "2014-10-27T13:51:32Z")
Thanks for the reply and suggestions everyone. > [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > There’s the old _Vigilante_ series. The _Deadshot_ mini-series. This theme is featured a great deal in _Suicide Squad_ I’ve also read some Deadpool series and really like breaking the 4th wall jokes and other jokes he made. Too bad they made him handsome again, I really love the disfigured Deadpool. > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > [The Punisher](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punisher) > > [Hitman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitman_%28DC_Comics%29) I know about Punisher and kinda like it except when they (IMO) screw it up by mixing him with the superheroes, since IMHO The Punisher is not a superhero as he doesn’t have any super powers or super suits, he’s a traditional man rarely uses high tech technology (as in not-exist-in-this-world technology). > [@epbrown01](#): > > One of the reasons I quit reading comics was when they retconned Wolverine. He was initially just a straight up killer, no remorse. Then Marvel realized how popular he was and he started moaning about the “seeing the life go from someone’s eyes” and such, and people we’d seen him carve up, even faceless henchmen, turned out to have miraculously survived. > > There was a big to-do when Daredevil dropped Bullseye after the latter killed Elektra with no remorse. Since none of the events took (Bullseye recovered, Elektra was resurrected). Agreed, its weird when suddenly Wolverine got conscience considering the hundred years he have without it, it would take a really long time for him to have the conscience about killing. And nothing upsets me more than a retconned resurrection. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > The Spectre (who, amongst other events, turned the rapist Dr. Light into a candelabra, then set him on fire). Ditko’s Mr. A. The Comet (who disintegrated his foes with his death-ray vision). I wanted to read the Spectre since long time ago, but feels uncomfortable seeing him only wearing underpants under his cloak. Otherwise, I know The Spectre is a really good title, my friends sometimes told me the story of it. As for Spider and Avenger I’d look into it later since finding a classic pulp nowadays (online or offline) are somewhat hard. And as for Rorsach, running coach is right, it depends on how you see it, one time he’s a good guy, other times he’s an asshole who kills as he pleases. I think it is good since he bought back the masked detective and vigilante archtype. Also I’d like to think it’s Moore’s way of saying “this is what a vigilantism really like.” ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/19 "2014-10-27T14:18:40Z")
The Rifleman. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550/20 "2014-10-27T14:43:09Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > The OP has mentioned Watchmen but Rorschach has got to be the \*\*epitome \*\*of a don’t-give-a-fuck good guy killer. From what I’ve read, he isn’t really supposed to be a good guy. He’s vigilantism run a muck. I do not think that word means what you think it means. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superhero-who-kills-without-remorse/702550.md?page=2)