# superheroes who kill their opponents

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superheroes-who-kill-their-opponents/548669>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 31, 2010, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superheroes-who-kill-their-opponents/548669 "2010-07-31T08:27:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superheroes-who-kill-their-opponents/548669/41 "2010-08-02T03:07:58Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> > [@RandMcnally](#):
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> > Does Deadpool count as a hero? 'Cuz if so he has killed one or two people.
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> Hell, one time he killed the same two people dozens of times in one sitting!

So does that count as, say, 36 kills, or does that just mean he killed the same two people 18 times?

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superheroes-who-kill-their-opponents/548669/42 "2010-08-02T03:20:10Z")

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> [@Cumberdale](#):
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> I remember seeing a documentary or something that was talking about early superheroes and TV or movies. One had a Superman type hero on a building being shot at by two bad guys. The hero picks up one of the baddies and tosses him off the roof of the building to his presumed death.
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> I’ve not been able to find where I saw it, but that scene stuck with me because it was so unexpected.

_The Adventures of Captain Marvel_, 1941, starring Tom Tyler.

[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033317/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033317/)

It surprised me, too, the first time I saw it. You couldn’t do that in a childrens’ movie today!

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superheroes-who-kill-their-opponents/548669/43 "2010-08-02T03:24:26Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> > [@Grumman](#):
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> > Hell, one time he killed the same two people dozens of times in one sitting!
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> So does that count as, say, 36 kills, or does that just mean he killed the same two people 18 times?

Considering that the victims didn’t seem to care that much about self-preservation until they were in danger of running out of replacements, but surrendered before they could be wiped out, it might count as zero kills.

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**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superheroes-who-kill-their-opponents/548669/44 "2010-08-02T09:07:35Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> > [@Oakminster](#):
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> > And I say again, the Punisher is nothing but a [Mack Bolan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Bolan) wannabe.
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> Or even [Power Man and Iron Fist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Fist_%28comics%29)… Luke Cage… which I think is still the nominal nominary for Mortal Combat’s Johnny Cage.

According to this article…

> **[6 Insane True Stories Behind The Stage Names of Celebrities](https://www.cracked.com/article_18613_6-insane-true-stories-behind-stage-names-celebrities.html)**
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> A person's Hollywood career pretty much banks on their name. Some of these stories, though, are just downright ridiculous.

…Johnny Cage’s name was inspired by Nicolas Cage, whose surname was originally inspired by Luke Cage

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superheroes-who-kill-their-opponents/548669/45 "2010-08-02T12:02:48Z")

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> [@satoridt](#):
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> I think those are the only two Alan Moore works I am familiar with, should I look more into his stuff?

Yes - most if not all of his stuff is worth a read, from his work on Swamp Thing, to books like Top Ten (my personal fave), V for Vendetta, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, From Hell, etc…

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