# Superman Returns June 30, 2006 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 23, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520 "2006-03-23T01:10:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bubastis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@bubastis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubastis)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/21 "2006-03-23T23:42:12Z")
Someone at AICN described some footage they seen at a festival recently, which showed Clark running into an elevator during a moment of crisis, turning and ripping his shirt open to reveal the S just as the doors close. The next scene has Supes bursting out the roof of the elevator and shedding his Clark clothes as he flies up the elevator shaft, smashing out of the roof of the Daily Planet and into the sky to look down on the city from a great height, all in one shot. I mean, if that alone isn’t worth ten bucks, what is? ---
**Author:** ![bubastis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@bubastis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubastis)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/22 "2006-03-23T23:52:55Z")
What I love about this new movie is the idea that Superman is returning after years away, expecting everyone to be still in love with him. However, he returns to find Lois engaged and with a kid. Everyone is pissed off at him for things that went wrong while he was away. What if Superman could have prevented 9/11 if he hadn’t been pissing about in space for years? Would you welcome him back? That, if you ask me, is Supermans true weakness, not kryptonite… He’s too much of a softie, too much of a boy scout. How will he act now that he really has nothing to lose? Other footage I’ve heard of has Clark looking at a photo of Lois and her man. Holding the frame, he crushes it into pieces, his eyes filled with hate. Clearly he wont be in his right state of mind to fight anyone, let alone Dr. Evil… sorry, I mean Lex Luthor. Ok, if I’m worried about anything, its Spacey as Luthor. Apparently he does a “Billions” speech… Who will take that seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2006, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/23 "2006-05-14T08:26:53Z")
Saw a new trailer for this tonight (you can see it [here](http://supermanreturns.warnerbros.com/trailer.html)) and I gotta say, I _really_ had my doubts about the film before I saw the trailer, but now I think the film just might work. Spacey obviously makes a **great** Lex Luthor (and appears to be heavily influenced by Hackman’s performance). ---
**Author:** ![LorieSmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a587f6/32.png) [@LorieSmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LorieSmurf)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2006, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/24 "2006-05-14T10:34:09Z")
Now people, remember when people heard about the new Spiderman movie? Everyone was “geez, that’s been done so many times” and “Tobey Maguire playing Peter Parker???”, and “this is going to suck huge donkey balls”. And those movies turned out to be kick-ass. Superman can be the same way. It better be, or I’m gonna be pissed off. ---
**Author:** ![LorieSmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a587f6/32.png) [@LorieSmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LorieSmurf)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2006, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/25 "2006-05-14T10:48:39Z")
Oooh, I just saw the trailer and about wet my pants. and I think Brandon Routh is hot and so is the new costume. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/26 "2006-05-14T16:17:14Z")
> [@bubastis](#): > > Someone at AICN described some footage they seen at a festival recently, which showed Clark running into an elevator during a moment of crisis, turning and ripping his shirt open to reveal the S just as the doors close. The next scene has Supes \*\*bursting out the roof of the elevator \*\* and shedding his Clark clothes as he flies up the elevator shaft, **smashing out of the roof of the Daily Planet** and into the sky to look down on the city from a great height, all in one shot. (bolding mine) Isn’t this guy supposed to have a secret identity? 😕 What’s he going to do about the damage? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/27 "2006-05-14T17:43:51Z")
So if Clark Kent returns at the same time as Superman, won’t that make people suspicious? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/28 "2006-05-14T19:01:44Z")
Because it interfered with my beloved X-Men franchise, I will hate Superman 'til the day I die. That and the Wonder Woman/Young Avengers thing have made me hate DC altogether. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/29 "2006-05-14T19:06:48Z")
I thought the whole Superman thing has been done to death lately. “The Adventures of Lois & Clark”? “Smallville”? The previews just look like a bigscreen version of one of these shows. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/30 "2006-05-14T21:02:57Z")
I like the trailer, I love Bryan Singer, and I think there’s a lot of promise in doing a good Superman movie (they’ve already done two good ones, after all). But my main concern about this one is the casting. Mainly, the leads are too young. Brandon Routh is 26. At roughly the same age, Tobey McGuire was playing a very believeable Peter Parker - as a high school student! Supes may be eternally youthful, but at least he should be a _man_. I can’t really believe in a superhero who looks younger than most of the contestants on American Idol. And even worse, Kate Bosworth is 23, for chrissakes, and she looks it. She’s WAY too young to be a top big-city reporter, much less a mom of a grade-schooler. Not to mention that the events of the new movie are supposed to take place a number of years (eight? ten?) after the previous films, where Lois was already a high-level career gal. Which means in this film she should be at _minimum_ in her mid-thirties. I refuse to believe that Singer couldn’t find an actress of a more appropriate age for the part. Not to say KB isn’t a good actress (I haven’t seen enough of her work to judge), but come on. There are gazillion thirtyish actresses out there and they can’t all be crap. Whenever I see the photos and trailers starring those two, I just get the feeling it’s a really high-budget high school play. If you start with your leads straining credibility, it’s already an uphill battle. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2006, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/31 "2006-05-15T10:15:34Z")
I don’t think I am going to like it very much. Superman just never was a very interesting hero. Like other people said, he is a boyscout, a goody two shoes. I like my characters to have a little personality, even if they are comic-based superheroes. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/32 "2006-05-15T14:04:53Z")
> [@Talon Karrde](#): > > So if Clark Kent returns at the same time as Superman, won’t that make people suspicious? You’re talking about a town that can’t tell the difference between a guy with his glasses on and his glasses off. Somehow I don’t think it’ll be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2006, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/33 "2006-05-15T14:32:57Z")
I find it a wee bit creepy that they’re reusing Marlon Brando’s voice of Jor-El for this movie. Really, it seems like we’ve been there done that for these origins of super heros. I’ll wait for it to come on DVD. ---
**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520/34 "2006-05-15T14:54:26Z")
Honestly, I’ve never been a huge Superman fan (though I liked the first two movies and watched all of the TV series). I was never a consistent buyer of Superman Titles either. Having said that, except for the suit, everything else about this movie looks great. I’m really looking forward to it. I’m a big Bats fan, but haven’t liked any of those movies (until Batman Begins – Loved the animated films if they can be counted). This looks like a great updating. Spacey seems fabulous (and to be channeling Hackman–which is a good thing), and everyone else looks great. I’ll be there in the first couple of weeks (never could stand being in mass groups of fanatical geeks–they make me embarassed to be one). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-returns-june-30-2006/349520.md?page=1)