# Superman, Time Travel, and BZ00000

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 7, 2002, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633 "2002-11-07T00:56:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/21 "2002-11-07T04:42:11Z")

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I knew I wasn’t the only one who got this e-mail.

[http://www.internettime.com/blog/archives/000209.html](http://www.internettime.com/blog/archives/000209.html)

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**Author:** ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/22 "2002-11-07T04:42:59Z")

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Did I send you an e-mail? The only e-mail I sent went to manahattan.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/23 "2002-11-07T04:45:59Z")

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Well BZ, click the link. If you wrote that then you did send me an e-mail. If you didn’t, then you didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/24 "2002-11-07T04:51:37Z")

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P.S. I’m sure **manny’s** got nothin’ but love for you in his heart right now.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/25 "2002-11-07T05:24:34Z")

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Look, your problem is that it doesn’t seem to matter how many times people tell you the earths rotation has nothing whatsoever to do with the way time works, you ignore them and ask your original question again. Either you’re trolling, or you’re being so incredibly thick-headed as to give the appearance of it. But you’ve heard all this before, just re-read the threads you started.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/26 "2002-11-07T06:17:24Z")

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I think we may be being just an eensy weensy bit harsh on BZ, assuming that his second link in his second thread is not a put on.

Even assuming that link is accurate, all it is saying is that time near a massive spinning object drags behind a bit. BZ that does not mean that by reversing the spin, time would go backwards.

And Scotth, I have to know: what was the devastating analogy you were going to develop if BZ came back with a topic about which he considers himself well informed?

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/27 "2002-11-07T06:30:33Z")

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I think BZ’s thread was one of the best ever.

But, then again, I think I’m going insane.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/28 "2002-11-07T06:31:53Z")

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Aaah yes.

Once again, I can revive the old, but belated/hated concept of [TIMECUBE!!](http://www.timecube.com)

Told you it was all true. . . :rolleyes:

Tripler  
“Education ‘plunders’ Nature”!!

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/29 "2002-11-07T07:00:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by BZ00000:
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> \ ***Wrong, I can clearly hear the Earth slowing down and reversing its spin. How could the director fake that?**

This is what boggles my mind. If the director _didn’t_ fake it, then Superman MUST actually exist and MUST have _actually reversed the Earth_.

**BZ00000** : How does this fit in with your admission that you realize that Superman is just a movie? It’s like the poster who claimed the photos of the moon landings were fake while at the same time claiming those same photos showed proof of aliens on the lunar surface. Makes me feel nice and sane by comparison.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/30 "2002-11-07T07:13:50Z")

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Very entertaining nonsense. I laughed my ass off at this guy.

I think the bit about the director faking the sound of the Earth reversing rotation was a joke. I could be wrong, of course, and even if I’m right, I can certainly see how it might be difficult to discern that, given the ridiculousness of some of the things he claims to be serious about.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/31 "2002-11-07T09:26:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by BZ00000 \*  
> \*\*One day time travel will be available to everyone and the world will be a better place, no thanks to you.  
> \*\*

I stand chastened. What WAS I thinking?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/32 "2002-11-07T11:05:00Z")

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BZ00000 wrote:

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> One day time travel will be available to everyone and the world will be a better place, no thanks to you.

Then why haven’t you come back and posted how it works?

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/33 "2002-11-07T11:06:01Z")

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> To everyone who has called me an idiot or troll, do you know nothing about time travel, very few do yet.

I know plenty about time travel. In fact, I just traveled into the future and saw that, yes, you WILL be an idiot for the rest of your life.

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/34 "2002-11-07T11:42:34Z")

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My time machine is almost complete.

Anyone know where I can get my hands on a used DeLorian and a Flux Capacitor?

And some plutonium?

No?

Damn.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/35 "2002-11-07T12:17:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BZ00000 \*  
> \*\*The first thread was stopped because I didn’t have “any” evidence.

\*\*Really? - from where I’m standing, it looks more like the original thread was closed because it was a load of old bollocks, ho hum.

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> \*\*I then started a new thread with a link to evidence and you closed it. Did you even read the new evidence?

\*\*\<yawn\> You’ll notice that I mentioned frame-dragging in the first thread that got closed…

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> \*\*To everyone who has called me an idiot or troll, do you know nothing about time travel, very few do yet. One day time travel will be available to everyone and the world will be a better place, no thanks to you.

\*\*iin this case it will be possible to visit the past, including today - where are the visitors from the future?

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> \*\*Finally, as I have stated a number of times, I don’t think Superman is real nor do I see the movie a historical document. I was just using it as an example. \*\*

_cough_Bullshit!_cough_ - what was all that about the sound of the Earth reversing?

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**Author:** ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/36 "2002-11-07T13:58:54Z")

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Scotth, a subject I know a lot about is Italian Ice. Not so much how to make it, but how to eat it. I have my own special technique (which probably isn’t unique) were I scrap off the ice to create a softer icy treat.

Please help me understand time travel better; I have some important things to do.

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**Author:** ![scotth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@scotth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotth)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/37 "2002-11-07T14:35:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BZ00000 \*  
> \*\*Scotth, a subject I know a lot about is Italian Ice. Not so much how to make it, but how to eat it. I have my own special technique (which probably isn’t unique) were I scrap off the ice to create a softer icy treat.
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> Please help me understand time travel better; I have some important things to do. \*\*

Well, that would be having a special technique for eating, not really knowing alot about it.

How about cars? Do you work on cars? Are you familiar with the way the major components of a car go together to make a functioning whole? What do you do for a living? There has to be some machine or physical process that you work with or observe frequently that you are very familiar with.

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> _Originally posted by Princhester_And Scotth, I have to know: what was the devastating analogy you were going to develop if BZ came back with a topic about which he considers himself well informed?

Hopefully, you will find out pretty soon.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/38 "2002-11-07T14:38:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by BZ00000 \*  
> **a subject I know a lot about is Italian Ice. Not so much how to make it, but how to eat it. I have my own special technique (which probably isn’t unique) were I scrap off the ice to create a softer icy treat.**

I’d imagine your mouth has plenty of time to eat ice cream - not much of your dialogue comes out of it.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/39 "2002-11-07T14:38:58Z")

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If anyone here _does_ fashion a time travelling device, could they kindly travel about 6 minutes before this post is made and tell me not to open this thread? Thanks (in advance?).

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**Author:** ![mske](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mske](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mske)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/40 "2002-11-07T14:42:09Z")

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I’d rather go back X number of years and talk **BZ00000’s** parent out of it.

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