# Superman, Time Travel, and BZ00000

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 7, 2002, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633 "2002-11-07T00:56:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mske](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ccd318/32.png) [@mske](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mske)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/41 "2002-11-07T14:44:37Z")

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…or maybe both parent **s** , since I’m already there…

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/42 "2002-11-07T14:54:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BZ00000 \*  
> \*\*Please help me understand time travel better; I have some important things to do. \*\*

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ0000000000! Wrong answer! You have nothing more important to do!

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**Author:** ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/43 "2002-11-07T15:07:16Z")

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There has to be some machine or physical process that you work with or observe frequently that you are very familiar with.

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How about fingernail clippers? I just used a pair and feel I have a really good understanding of how they work.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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**Author:** ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/44 "2002-11-07T15:15:50Z")

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No kidding I have nothing better to do! What could be more important than time travel?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/45 "2002-11-07T15:16:21Z")

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C’mon **BZ00000** ; time to spill the beans - was is all just a social experiment?

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/46 "2002-11-07T15:16:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by particlewill \*  
> \*\*My time machine is almost complete.
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> Anyone know where I can get my hands on a used DeLorian and a Flux Capacitor?
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> And some plutonium?
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> No?
> 
> Damn. \*\*

You can use my Mr. Fusion kitchen appliance- just get it back to me before Sunday, as I have some serious gambling trips planned for the past.

And somebody has developed an unheathly obsession with time travel. Watching a couple **Star Trek: Voyager** episodes should clear that right up for you.

And **BZ00000** , your not that clever. At all. We are not laughing _with_ you, lets put it that way.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/47 "2002-11-07T15:32:41Z")

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Mr. Adams and his Teeming Meiilions are having a hard enough time fighting my own ignorance, yet I pale in comparison to **BZ**. Oh well, at least they’ve scored a victory or three (hundred) with me.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/48 "2002-11-07T15:34:36Z")

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_Millions_ even. And I previewed. DOH!

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**Author:** ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/49 "2002-11-07T15:41:21Z")

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\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_C’mon BZ00000; time to spill the beans - was is all just a social experiment?

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I am not sure what this means. I don’t have enough information to even design an experiment yet, much yet run one. My knowledge of time travel is very limited, that why I am asking these questions. And I am not sure why it would be a “social” experiment, wouldn’t it be a scientific experiment? Is it called a social experiment because I have requested other people’s help?

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/50 "2002-11-07T15:41:27Z")

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Spinning the Earth backwards won’t take you back in time, but it will take a few miles off the odometer. It isn’t ethical, but I bet you could get a few more dollars for it on the used planet market.

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**Author:** ![scotth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@scotth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotth)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/51 "2002-11-07T15:41:34Z")

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Fuck it BZ00000,

If you don’t understand any machine more complicated than finger nail clippers, how do you even dress yourself?

Lets cut to the chase. If you want to address the idea of time travel, you have to understand time, space, and gravity (and most likely more).

In fact, you will have to understand General Relativity better than anyone on the planet today, or anyone that has ever lived.

So, if you really want to discuss this, go get a total mastery of General Relativity. (Not some popular account with all the good stuff stripped out.) Here is a list of topic (more or less in order) that you will probably need to know. The order of these topics is important as concepts and techniques mastered in the previous will help or be required to understand the next.

1. Calculus, advanced calculus, all the way to tensor calculus.
2. mechanics (in the physics sense)
3. Newtonian gravity.
4. Doppler effects.
5. Maxwell’s equations.
6. Special Relativity
7. General Relativity.
8. and most likely Quantum Mechanics all the way though QCD.
9. Probably wouldn’t hurt to be familiar with all the String and M-brane theories out there.

Then you will be prepared to contemplate practical time travel. However, I think you would find, if you managed to wade the first 7 with even a modest understanding (let alone the mastery that will be required to extend or correct any of these) you will see that the universe is not kind to the idea of time travel.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/52 "2002-11-07T15:45:16Z")

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Time travel is a lot like entropy travel.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/53 "2002-11-07T15:48:47Z")

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The inflight meals are better though.

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/54 "2002-11-07T16:03:53Z")

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1. Shit from Shinola 101

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**Author:** ![BZ00000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@BZ00000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BZ00000)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/55 "2002-11-07T16:04:55Z")

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\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_If you don’t understand any machine more complicated than finger nail clippers, how do you even dress yourself?

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I do understand more complex machines. I just thought using a simple machine would make things easier. But if you want a more complex machine, how about a 10-speed bicycle?

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/56 "2002-11-07T16:09:33Z")

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BZZZZZZZZZZ it is obvious from your posts that you’re not completely without sense or logic; you just use logic that suits you. This means you’re at least reasonably intelligent, IMO.

Now, if this is true, then either you are genuinely interested in learning more about physics and time travel OR you’re posting all this gibberish simply to play around with the people on here.

So either learn from the responses people are giving you or quit wasting everyone’s time. It’s insulting.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/57 "2002-11-07T16:21:02Z")

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Threads like this sure beat killing your grandfather.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/58 "2002-11-07T16:41:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by hawthorne \*  
> \*\*Threads like this sure beat killing your grandfather. \*\*

Depends on the grandfather, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/59 "2002-11-07T17:25:42Z")

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I just want to take this opportunity to say that **scotth** rocks. You, sir, are a true champion in the cause of ignorance eradication.

Unfortunately, some folks’ ignorance just can’t be fought.

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2002, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superman-time-travel-and-bz00000/135633/60 "2002-11-07T17:44:33Z")

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Come on people. This guy is obviously a troll. If somebody was really this mentally challenged they couldn’t possibly be making complete sentences… let alone post on the internet.[sub] Well, maybe he’s using a Mac[/sub]. But anyhow, you know what I’m getting at.

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