# Supernatural 9/25 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 25, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213 "2008-09-25T20:25:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/21 "2008-09-27T03:58:26Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Something doesn’t feel right. Lilith is bad ass and all, but Sam could have taken her. If you mean the last time they met up, I… really don’t know. _Something_ happened to depower Lilith–the white light dies away, Sam is still noticeably alive, Lilith looks panicked and starts backing away–but if some sort of switch flipped for Sam’s powers, why hasn’t he taken her out yet? His brother was dead and in hell, it’s not like he didn’t have the motivation. Maybe he can’t control them yet or maybe something else stepped in, but I don’t know if Sam would necessarily come out on top in a Sam/Lilith fight. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/22 "2008-09-27T04:07:56Z")
Maybe Sam is the one breaking the seals. Maybe he’s gone all evil. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/23 "2008-09-27T15:01:07Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > If you mean the last time they met up, I… really don’t know. _Something_ happened to depower Lilith–the white light dies away, Sam is still noticeably alive, Lilith looks panicked and starts backing away–but if some sort of switch flipped for Sam’s powers, why hasn’t he taken her out yet? His brother was dead and in hell, it’s not like he didn’t have the motivation. > > Maybe he can’t control them yet or maybe something else stepped in, but I don’t know if Sam would necessarily come out on top in a Sam/Lilith fight. After the end of last season - Lilith disappeared - Sam spent “months” searching for her, and still hadn’t found her when Dean came back. Sam could’ve killed her then, but she escaped - Lilith was un-prepared. Now that she is prepared, who knows - Dean is back to keep sam from joining the dark side…a path he was definitely on with him gone. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/24 "2008-09-27T15:34:43Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Sam could’ve killed her then, but she escaped - Lilith was un-prepared. > > Now that she is prepared, who knows - Could she take on Batman? I had forgotten Krypke’s promise of five seasons tops, but I’m a little uneasy about the idea of an apocalypse anyway. Really, what are the odds that we’re gonna get a happy ending here? Is there a chance? At all? I want the show to end with Sam and Dean driving off into the sunset in their trusty Impala , ready to fight more evil. I like Castiel too, much as I dislike the tired-out theology debates he brings with him. And all of the people in the fandom who were too squicked to slash Sam and Dean seem to have discovered and affinity toward Wing!fic, which is so cracky that I have to approve, even as I’m laughing my ass off. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/25 "2008-09-27T16:44:15Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > \And all of the people in the fandom who were too squicked to slash Sam and Dean seem to have discovered and affinity toward Wing!fic, which is so cracky that I have to approve, even as I’m laughing my ass off. So, can you hook a brotha up? ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/26 "2008-09-27T19:11:52Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > So, can you hook a brotha up? Appropriate username. Touched by an Angel: A Dean/Castiel page. Looks like it updates pretty often. > **[(no title)](https://deancastiel.livejournal.com/)** > > Your life is the best story! Just start your blog today! And a Dean/Castiel pic (PG-13) > **[Slash pairing ftw (dean/new S4 character PG-13)](https://supernaturalart.livejournal.com/1005258.html)** > > Couldn't help myself. (x-posted and adjusted post for spoilerific character) Srsly guys, the moment Show decided so unceremoniously to introduce (a) an angel character (b) a really NICE LOOKING angel character and (c) a really nice looking angel... No Sam/Castiel yet, but the season’s still young. ---
**Author:** ![WilhelmGefallen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9f8e36/32.png) [@WilhelmGefallen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilhelmGefallen)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/27 "2008-09-28T04:10:14Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Fitting that it was an episode of ANGEL, too, huh? 😃 Pretty much, and according to [www.tvrage.com](http://www.tvrage.com) Fred is back in an upcoming episode. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/28 "2008-09-28T04:53:00Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > Dean must, he must, he must increase his bust! I’m pretty sure that I’m the only one that read that and thought of a scene from _Die! You Zombie Bastards!_. Is there some other movie where that orginated from? ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/29 "2008-09-28T04:58:57Z")
> [@Cuckoorex](#): > > I’m pretty sure that I’m the only one that read that and thought of a scene from _Die! You Zombie Bastards!_. Is there some other movie where that orginated from? A book, actually - “Are You There, God? It’s me, Margaret” had a scene with a group of pre-teen girls doing “exercises” to make their breasts grow faster, all while chanting the above. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213/30 "2008-09-28T18:13:44Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > Appropriate username. > Touched by an Angel: A Dean/Castiel page. Looks like it updates pretty often. > > [http://community.livejournal.com/deancastiel/](http://community.livejournal.com/deancastiel/) > > And a Dean/Castiel pic (PG-13) > > [Slash pairing ftw (dean/new S4 character PG-13): supernaturalart — LiveJournal](http://community.livejournal.com/supernaturalart/1005258.html#cutid1) > > No Sam/Castiel yet, but the season’s still young. OH, my. That’s, um, interesting. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-9-25/465213.md?page=1)