# Supernatural Season 9 Ongoing discussion(spoilers as it airs)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 9, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737 "2013-10-09T01:05:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/41 "2014-01-17T18:18:27Z")

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> [@Cuckoorex](#):
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> Wow, the comments on that article almost approach YouTube levels of vitriol.

Yeah. All that back and forth about which ship is the most popular?

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/42 "2014-01-17T19:26:55Z")

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It just occurred to me that apparently slash fiction is to fangirls as lesbian porn is to guys.

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**Author:** ![troubledwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@troubledwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troubledwater)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/43 "2014-01-23T01:55:01Z")

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These blanket statements about angels are so problematic. The first thing I thought of when they brought in this business of remnant grace was, wait, does that mean Lucifer left part of himself behind in Sam? Is there a piece of Castiel still in Jimmy Novak’s daughter Claire? Did Michael leave a little something behind in young John Winchester?

Wow, good thing Michael is trapped in Hell along with Adam, who must have been carrying a piece of the archangel when they fell - else he would be having some terrible jet lag.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/44 "2014-01-23T06:29:21Z")

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OTOH, the shows writers are probably the only people on TV with the cojones to retcon the bible. That Caine stuff was awesome.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/45 "2014-01-24T00:18:27Z")

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> [@troubledwater](#):
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> These blanket statements about angels are so problematic. The first thing I thought of when they brought in this business of remnant grace was, wait, does that mean Lucifer left part of himself behind in Sam? Is there a piece of Castiel still in Jimmy Novak’s daughter Claire? Did Michael leave a little something behind in young John Winchester?
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> Wow, good thing Michael is trapped in Hell along with Adam, who must have been carrying a piece of the archangel when they fell - else he would be having some terrible jet lag.

I think they implied that while a piece of grace is left behind, it doesn’t last long and healing Sam just made it dissipate a little faster.  
That woman was pretty dumb shooting the symbol on her floor like that. What a little easily repairable knife scratch wouldn’t do when you could ruin the floorboards?

Seemed even dumber when it came back to bite her when the demon showed up tailing Crowley.

Speaking of… why was the demon using a cellphone? Where’s his vessel of blood???

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**Author:** ![troubledwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@troubledwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troubledwater)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/46 "2014-01-24T01:02:39Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Speaking of… why was the demon using a cellphone? Where’s his vessel of blood???

Is the vessel of blood only for topside-to-Hell communications?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/47 "2014-01-24T01:21:25Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> OTOH, the shows writers are probably the only people on TV with the cojones to retcon the bible. That Caine stuff was awesome.

Ha ha. I liked that too. “Screw you bible authors; I was the good guy!” 😛

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**Author:** ![troubledwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@troubledwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troubledwater)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/48 "2014-01-24T01:41:12Z")

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The scene in which Cain shucks corn while Dean fights demons reminded me of the barfight in the TOS ep The Trouble With Tribbles (Cyrano Jones precariously maneuvers a drink throughout the scene, choreographed against the brawl).

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/49 "2014-01-24T01:59:06Z")

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Crowley had to have known about the demon(s) following them, right? I’m going to have to watch this again without the family peanut gallery distracting me.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/50 "2014-01-25T00:01:34Z")

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> [@troubledwater](#):
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> Is the vessel of blood only for topside-to-Hell communications?

Nope, even that demon equivalent of Bobby was using it when coordinating stuff the way Bobby did with phones.

I was hoping maybe the one using the phone was communicating with someone other than more demons as that would clear it up, but nope, just more demons showed up.

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**Author:** ![troubledwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@troubledwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troubledwater)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/51 "2014-01-30T04:24:06Z")

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I don’t hate Garth as much as a lot of viewers do, but I got a kick out of the opening scenes, knowing the Garth-averse were watching eagerly and hoping he’d get ganked right there.

The bad guy exposition went on WAY TOO LONG and was a missed opportunity for Dean to pull out some Mark of Cain mojo.

I love Sam, really, but this can be credited almost entirely to the versions of him I encounter in fanfiction. The end of this episode had me pacing the house and scaring the cats while I shouted “Stop being such a dick, Sam!”

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**Author:** ![Beelzebubba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Beelzebubba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beelzebubba)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/52 "2014-01-30T05:50:38Z")

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The ‘Sharp Teeth’ epsiode last this week was a dud, IMHO. There is at least one or two episodes each season that I don’t enjoy and this was one of those.

I always enjoy watching Dean when he’s so burdened by guilt and pain…if possible, it makes him even sexier! They really should throw in a shirtless scene for him every once in a while…the things I would do that boy…

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/53 "2014-01-30T17:06:20Z")

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I think the problem with the Sam and Dean relationship has been gone over and over so much that it feels like they brought on new writers that either didn’t watch previous seasons or forgot about them. I mean, when Sam agreed to let Lucifer use him as a vessel, Dean gave the whole, “it’s not on me to let you do anything, you’re your own man, and I should start treating you that way,” bit, then when Sam came back (albeit temporarily soulless) it was another case of “we have to approach this as equal if we’re going to do this” and so it keeps on going. Maybe it’s just because Dean has such a hard time letting go of his Big Brother role, I don’t know. It just felt like deja vu.

(On a side note, I don’t know if any Supernatural fans were also fans of the comic series Preacher, but supposedly a TV movie or series is in the early stages of development somewhere, and I thought that scruffy Jensen Ackles would make a pretty good Jesse Custer…)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/54 "2014-02-14T01:16:39Z")

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Supernatural got renewed today for a season 10. Awesome!

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**Author:** ![troubledwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@troubledwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troubledwater)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/55 "2014-02-14T01:19:50Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Supernatural got renewed today for a season 10. Awesome!

Great! That gives it a chance to go out with a bang, instead of whatever it is it’s doing this season.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/56 "2014-02-14T23:40:07Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Supernatural got renewed today for a season 10. Awesome!

YES!

YES!

YES!

YES!

YES!

YES!

YES!

(with apologies to Daniel Bryan)

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/57 "2014-03-07T15:00:54Z")

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So I just watched “Thin Man”…obvious allusion to the Slenderman urban legend, right down to the creepy-ish photos. And some more Ghostfacers, though a bit more serious this time around. And the girl who gets killed early on in this one…she was the final girl in the Bloody Mary episode back in season one! I kinda hoped that when she hid in the closet and took out her phone that she was going to call Sam & Dean, but alas…

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**Author:** ![minionkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@minionkat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minionkat)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/58 "2014-03-07T15:41:57Z")

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It was one of the creepiest episodes they have done in a good long time. I really enjoyed it. The parallel relationship issues were a bit heavy-handed, but I can forgive that.

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**Author:** ![troubledwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@troubledwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troubledwater)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/59 "2014-04-03T02:38:19Z")

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OK, with TelevisionWithoutPity going away, I have to get this off my chest _somewhere_, might as well be here.

Re: “Mother’s Little Helper.”

I liked this episode quite a bit, possibly because I am soft on Henry Winchester. I liked watching Sam _do_ something, especially dealing with Billy “Stick-a-fork-in-her” The Kid. For the first time since Abaddon’s introduction, I developed an interest in the backstory of Josie Sands.

However, it was not without it’s flaws.

1. Why did the returning souls need to wend their way through windows and the bars of the jail? Shouldn’t they be able to pass right through them? Also, this is at least the third episode of the series, and the second this season, to feature glass jars stored on precarious shelves in the middle of a room.
2. Julia was way too sharp to think that announcing a demon infestation at the top of her lungs at a police station was going to be an effective strategy.
3. Sam’s reasoning that those people were soulless was really flimsy, given the acknowledgment their behavior was nothing like his own. Yet, it would have been so easy just to write the victims as not having slept for several days, thus utilizing a known symptom of soullessness.
4. I don’t think Josie was in love with Henry (she didn’t actually admit to that). But I do wonder about the gossip in Normal, Illinois, circa 1958, when she and Henry vanished on the same night.

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**Author:** ![Marks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Marks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marks)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supernatural-season-9-ongoing-discussion-spoilers-as-it-airs/670737/60 "2014-04-06T22:58:01Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Supernatural got renewed today for a season 10. Awesome!

Really ?.  
That’s good news.

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